cern Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Yes! This track deserves to be hyped - My god it is a beast! and my friend called it "Nice ambient techno" wich I think was very funny but pretty fair! Just listen to that acid bits around 3:30... And listen to that long and tasty Outro! Mindblowing! Someone on Watmm said that Autechre only uses Monitors when they mix but I think this is totally BS - cus small layers and sounds is heard easy with closed back headphones that are almost impossible to hear with speakers/monitors. colunga, __f37d1-_, dingformung and 3 others 6 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Surprised it took this long to have a thread for it.. a true beast! dingformung and cern 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2857986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cern Posted March 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 On 3/4/2021 at 6:26 PM, MIXL2 said: Surprised it took this long to have a thread for it.. a true beast! Imagine to hear a live set like this! I like the "Musique concrète" Live stuff but this is totally for the ravers! The music has changed from Onesix to Sign and Plus and I think the Live sets will do also. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2857989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 A masterpiece, super original and unique track cern, MarcinKoczot and prdctvsm 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dingformung's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2857990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Definitely the standout track on Plus for me. I don't think I've listened to either Sign or Plus the last two months though. Normally I'd be listening to a new Ae release exclusively for the first six months after it's out. cern 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2857993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
__f37d1-_ Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 That kick in or change @ the 4.52 mark (and especially the one @ 7.42) sends a chill down my spine when I hear it at times. When stuff does that I know, personally, it's a special track for me. It's very emotional, one of my favs off of these last two releases. ♥² cern and Boxus 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2858276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodhidharma Posted March 5, 2021 Report Share Posted March 5, 2021 yeah its ace, sean actually played a snippet of it back in the mixlr streams when he was going through the folder of max patches cern and __f37d1-_ 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2858288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted March 6, 2021 Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 Definitely my favorite track out of both SIGN and PLUS. Going to have to give those both another listen soon. __f37d1-_, AnwarAutokino and cern 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2858496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cern Posted March 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 2:57 PM, __f37d1-_ said: That kick in or change @ the 4.52 mark (and especially the one @ 7.42) sends a chill down my spine when I hear it at times. When stuff does that I know, personally, it's a special track for me. It's very emotional, one of my favs off of these last two releases. ♥² Yeah I totally feel those bits and when you really feel the tempo when the claps/snares parts comes after 2 minutes in.. I was just "Whoa here we go!" then I looked up and saw that the track is over 12 minutes! So perfectly made. Sometimes it feels like the longest tracks are the best Ae tracks because with long repetitions and many soundsources it devolopes a better listen experience if It goes off with a fair amount of time if you know what I mean? __f37d1-_ 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2858616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neurone Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 I didn't catch this topic when it started, but yeah +1 for this track. On 3/6/2021 at 5:53 PM, cern said: sends a chill down my spine when I hear it at times. When stuff does that I know, personally, it's a special track for me. It's very emotional, one of my favs off of these last two releases exact same feeling here Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exitonly Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 i'm nonplussed Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide exitonly's signature Hide all signatures https://exit-only.com https://ravenation.club/@exitonly Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaoaoad Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) So I guess you all genuinely enjoy that noise in the first 3 mins of the track? Edited March 17, 2021 by toaoaoad Keyxox and brian trageskin 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 12:12 AM, toaoaoad said: So I guess you all genuinely enjoy that noise in the first 3 mins of the track? Blir, Draft78, toaoaoad and 1 other 4 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaoaoad Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 LOL don't get me wrong, I like all kinds of noisy shit. 7FM ic doesn't bother me in the slightest. But sometimes a sound just rubs you the wrong way. And it doesn't make sense to me as an aesthetic choice. Still, pretty good track. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markedone Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 12:12 AM, toaoaoad said: So I guess you all genuinely enjoy that noise in the first 3 mins of the track? i actually dont mind those high frequencies that I assume youre referring to. gonk steady one has similar harshness going on for much longer. but its actually the gurgling sound after 3+ mins that bothers me in X4. they sound like a tribute to grindcore / gutteral vocals (of which sean played some on the marathon dj streams) so yeah.. x4 is a weird track, i like some aspects but cant get into others dingformung 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lianne Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Since the floodgates have been opened to get specific about this track, I like it, but conversely it's after 3 minutes all the way to 6:53 that I find it hard to enjoy, with the relentless snare on the 2 for so long. The rest of the "bits" of the track have cool rhythmic variation, but for some reason I get tired of that beat going for so long in this instance. It's weird because tonnes of music utilises that kind of repetition, and I love it, and there's loads else changing across those minutes in this track - but yeah, the relentless boom-tshhh boom-tshhh beat gets to me from 3 mins to 6:53 (where it finally shifts) - even with the timbre of the "snare" changing as it does. I found weirdly Syro was like that after a while, with Aphex regularly resorting to a snare or clap hitting on the regular 2/4, and it got on my nerves in that album after a few too many tracks of it in the latter half. Obviously Autechre and the rest of 'Plus' doesn't fall into that. And obviously a beat like that can work and is a stable in most modern western music. There's plenty of other Autechre tracks with the same drum placement that still feel exciting, so I don't get why it feels that way here. The switch up at 6:53 is lush though... Edited March 17, 2021 by Lianne dingformung and markedone 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 the title of this track refers to something highly pornographic dingformung and Hugh Mughnus 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markedone Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 1:48 AM, Alcofribas said: the title of this track refers to something highly pornographic "marhide" Alcofribas 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cern Posted March 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 Interesting point of view people having on this track.. From 3-7 minutes in is the fucking peeking of the track: the main rave! Like an ADSR curve it is a clearly decaying part that laters shifting towards the long and soft end. If the track excluded those 4 minutes in the middle it had been pretty boring. gurgling sound? Grindcore? eh do we listen to the same track? So this track reminds you of this? jaderpansen 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 12:12 AM, toaoaoad said: So I guess you all genuinely enjoy that noise in the first 3 mins of the track? Yeah, but keep in mind Sean and Rob are elderly men at this point so what sounds quite loud and abrasive to us probably sounds muffled and far in the distance to them. They can't even hear half the sounds in their own tracks. toaoaoad and Draft78 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neurone Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 on first listen, the noise at the start of the track instantly made me think of this : toaoaoad 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 1:29 AM, Lianne said: Since the floodgates have been opened to get specific about this track, I like it, but conversely it's after 3 minutes all the way to 6:53 that I find it hard to enjoy, with the relentless snare on the 2 for so long. The rest of the "bits" of the track have cool rhythmic variation, but for some reason I get tired of that beat going for so long in this instance. It's weird because tonnes of music utilises that kind of repetition, and I love it, and there's loads else changing across those minutes in this track - but yeah, the relentless boom-tshhh boom-tshhh beat gets to me from 3 mins to 6:53 (where it finally shifts) - even with the timbre of the "snare" changing as it does. I found weirdly Syro was like that after a while, with Aphex regularly resorting to a snare or clap hitting on the regular 2/4, and it got on my nerves in that album after a few too many tracks of it in the latter half. Obviously Autechre and the rest of 'Plus' doesn't fall into that. And obviously a beat like that can work and is a stable in most modern western music. There's plenty of other Autechre tracks with the same drum placement that still feel exciting, so I don't get why it feels that way here. The switch up at 6:53 is lush though... Expand woah there's still a girl on watmm sup *fixes hair* Stock, Lianne, Turbo Zwanengestuif and 4 others 1 3 1 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide hello spiral's signature Hide all signatures https://salaamhelicoid.bandcamp.com/ Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markedone Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 9:02 AM, cern said: gurgling sound? Grindcore? eh do we listen to the same track? it sounds like a toilet bowl gargling at various points between 3-5 mins to me. and i dont remember exactly which metal bands or genres sean played from the radio streams, but they had similar levels of gutteral gargling vocals. I realy love the latter half of the track when it transitions and explores different timbres, so yeah its just and odd one for me overall. Also @Lianne I agree with your syro comparison, the driving kick-snare feels has a similar vibe for me Lianne 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 5:45 PM, markedone said: I realy love the latter half of the track when it transitions and explores different timbres, so yeah its just and odd one for me overall. Also @Lianne I agree with your syro comparison, the driving kick-snare feels has a similar vibe for me I'm definitely on the same page since my first listen: markedone and MarcinKoczot 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaoaoad Posted March 17, 2021 Report Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) I agree with the snare on 2 and 4 thing as well (another similarity with gonk steady one, too) - It feels a little topheavy. I feel like if they threw in some hi hats then it would make a big difference, but there's already a ton of other stuff filling in the sixteenths, so idk On 3/17/2021 at 10:10 AM, Blir said: Yeah, but keep in mind Sean and Rob are elderly men at this point so what sounds quite loud and abrasive to us probably sounds muffled and far in the distance to them. They can't even hear half the sounds in their own tracks. I know you're probably kidding lol but can they really be that old? I'd think they've just barely cleared 50 if that. They were teens when they started out iirc. Here's hoping their ears last well into old age, it's still a little too early to just set The System loose on producing its own material for eternity Edited March 17, 2021 by toaoaoad Lianne 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/100844-x4/#findComment-2861243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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