How does the World view Burundi these days?

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They really need to get their act together.

ambano has always been spitting that hot fire

i've got no complaints

is their room clean? 

Do they have travel restrictions currently and if no how can I get there?

i hear their jazz scene is terrible

I'd prefer if you would make one for France instead

*attaches dozens of pdfs about Burundi*

Burundi gay

  On 4/13/2021 at 4:02 AM, usagi said:

Burundi gay

What the fuck is wrong with you people

  On 4/13/2021 at 5:38 AM, toaoaoad said:

What the fuck is wrong with you people

How long do you have to discuss this? It’s a long long list for me. Maybe easier for me to tell you what’s not wrong with me. Lol

I wonder how Burundi is doing on the path to communists enlightenment.

  On 4/13/2021 at 3:13 PM, rhmilo said:

I wonder how Burundi is doing on the path to communists enlightenment.

 

They had a China backed socialist military dictatorship between 1965 to 1976 that ended after a genocide and a civil war. The army controlled by the socialist president Micombero murdered targeted members of the Hutu majority killing somewhere between 80.000 and 120.000 people by modern estimates.

  On 4/13/2021 at 3:13 PM, rhmilo said:

I wonder how Burundi is doing on the path to communists enlightenment.

 

do you REALLY want the answer to that? because this could go from joke thread to all out war once you know who gets a whiff of it...

  On 4/13/2021 at 4:31 PM, zkom said:

They had a China backed socialist military dictatorship between 1965 to 1976 that ended after a genocide and a civil war. The army controlled by the socialist president Micombero murdered targeted members of the Hutu majority killing somewhere between 80.000 and 120.000 people by modern estimates.

Interesting. Didn't know that.

They were involved in Rwanda, too, weren't they?

  On 4/13/2021 at 8:01 PM, rhmilo said:

Interesting. Didn't know that.

They were involved in Rwanda, too, weren't they?

It was a bit surprising to me too but China was in Burundi to use it as a logistics base for the communist insurgents battling in Congo during the Congo Crisis.

China (along with France..) provided weapons to Rwandan government during the Rwandan genocide in 1994 adding to the violence and France, Russia and China opposed to UN involvement in the crisis.

Socialism in Africa is a huge and very complicated topic with foreign powers having proxy wars etc. Angola is interesting for example with Cuban troops in the country during the civil war. Another is Tanzanian collectivization project.

Also it's not really taught in schools at least here how much European countries were and are fucking around in there. It's just "Africa has lots of wars and violence. So terrible". France does some military operations in West Africa without asking UN and nobody gives a fuck. Africa really got the shit end of the stick when it comes to colonialism and post-colonialism. I'm not saying that the African leaders have been shining examples of virtue but centuries of exploitation from outside hasn't definitely helped.

  On 4/14/2021 at 1:34 PM, zkom said:

Africa really got the shit end of the stick when it comes to colonialism and post-colonialism. I'm not saying that the African leaders have been shining examples of virtue but centuries of exploitation from outside hasn't definitely helped.

For real, Thomas Sankara + Burkina Faso in general got royally fucked over by France.

All of West Africa continues to get fucked over by France (the formerly French bits, anyway). They do not get to set their own monetary policy, French corporations own all their resources and French soldiers run around telling everyone what to do. Very little has changed since the 1960s.

Amazingly, however, Senegal is a fairly reasonably functioning state despite all this. Wonder how they managed that.

  On 4/13/2021 at 8:01 PM, rhmilo said:

They were involved in Rwanda, too, weren't they?

I just wanted to say that you should read "Shake Hands with the Devil" by Romeo Dallaire. It's a touch on the depressing side though.