Brisbot Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 I could just google this but usually "electronic musician" means "EDM". So I'd rather get the opinions of people here where they found some book useful for their own music in some way... music composition/theory/creativity whatever, not just music theory. I am doubtful there are many, but i've been reading a lot of books in general lately and think I should at least try to look to see if I can find some good books on the topic. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 there's the music theory for electronic musicans book https://www.amazon.com/Music-Theory-Electronic-Producers-progressions/dp/172786302X/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=music+theory+for+electronic+musicians&qid=1621113712&sr=8-2 uses ableton a lot. Brisbot 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2873914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/digital-mantras Brisbot 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2873918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himelstein Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 All of the Arcana: Musicians on Music. Specifically one and two. http://www.tzadik.com/index.php?catalog=B001 Also: Sound Synthesis and Sampling, Second Edition (Music Technology) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0240516923/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_XGRTMHR6EMTZR7WQ09E8 Brisbot and splesh 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2873930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himelstein Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Why are mine not links? I did it the same way I always do? Brisbot 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2873943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iococoi Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 1:55 AM, Himelstein said: Why are mine not links? I did it the same way I always do? works here, must be some copy-paste-rich-text-formatting thing http://www.tzadik.com/index.php?catalog=B001 also https://library.memoryoftheworld.org/#/book/bbfa0d78-79d3-4e73-bfd2-dce10da797c0 https://library.memoryoftheworld.org/#/book/6dde0f29-be24-4c5e-b39c-4dfcf5520d2a https://library.memoryoftheworld.org/#/book/62105e9f-e17a-419f-b63b-52b2ddd51fe5 Brisbot and Keyxox 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2873964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 academic and creative https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Sound-Design-Second-programming/dp/0240516931/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=miranda+computer+sound+design&qid=1621162615&s=books&sr=1-1 Brisbot 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2873986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbot Posted May 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 Thank all of you for your recommendations! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2874596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekosn Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 "on sonic art" for deep musings on sound and music beyond the western note system. "audible design" if you want to dive in to spectral mutations with the cdp software. http://www.trevorwishart.co.uk/AuD.html best books Ive read on sound/music so far Brisbot, Himelstein and iococoi 2 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2874602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekosn Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 also curtis roads' "composing electronic music" is a super enjoyable read Brisbot, Himelstein and jaderpansen 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2874760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himelstein Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) Maybe more in the “whatever” category, but still good: Last Night a DJ Saved My Life: The History of the Disc Jockey https://www.amazon.com/dp/0802146104/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_Q07JN3AMW1YT9C1GKHM6 Musicophilia: Tales of Music and the Brain, Revised and Expanded Edition https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400033535/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_YDFWC27J6S1VDNCQM1RZ Also - anything by David Toop- like rap attack or ocean of sound. Decent theory book (I went thru 10th edition, but I’m sure it’s the same): Basic Materials in Music Theory: A Programmed Approach (12th Edition) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0205654207/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_9VVETS8C0JX0X1NSFVRS On 5/15/2021 at 11:19 PM, Brisbot said: I could just google this but usually "electronic musician" means "EDM". So I'd rather get the opinions of people here where they found some book useful for their own music in some way... music composition/theory/creativity whatever, not just music theory. I am doubtful there are many, but i've been reading a lot of books in general lately and think I should at least try to look to see if I can find some good books on the topic. Edited May 19, 2021 by Himelstein Brisbot 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2874765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted May 19, 2021 Report Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) more about sound design than composition, but hey, where to draw the line in electronic musics anyway? Edited May 19, 2021 by jaderpansen Himelstein and Brisbot 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2874770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbot Posted May 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2021 Yee, I've got all the books on a list to check out! tyty Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2876725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iococoi Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 Quote HANDBOOK FOR ACOUSTIC ECOLOGY http://www.sfu.ca/sonic-studio-webdav/handbook/index.html Brisbot, psn, Scaramouche and 1 other 4 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2915716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted May 18, 2022 Report Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) KLF-The-Manual.pdf find one yourself, I'm too lazy Edited May 18, 2022 by TubularCorporation Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2915726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iococoi Posted May 25, 2022 Report Share Posted May 25, 2022 Quote Daphne Oram, "An Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics" (1972). When Oram was commissioned to write about music, she was keen to avoid writing a conventional manual; instead she wrote on music, sound, and electronics & their relationships https://ubu.com/media/text/emr/books/oram_anindividual.pdf aencre 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2916259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) Not specifically catered to electronic musicians, but I just discovered (though the painstaking process of it being one of the top 5 search results for the title) that the Tufts Digital Library has a full PDF of Everyday Tonality by Philip Tagg just sitting out there for free download: https://dl.tufts.edu/concern/pdfs/hx11xt121 I don't know what else is on there (nothing music related I could find), but I guess it's just honor system as far as downloading it if you don't already own it. Makes the archive.org lawsuit seem even worse when major universities are jsut giving the stuff away freely (at least with Archive you ahve to go through the trouble of printing the whole PDF as images and then recompiling them into a new PDF if you want a DRM-free copy from their lending service). I don' think it's a special case of the book being made freely available by the author or whatever, since Cambridge University Press still charges $26 to download the same PDF. Edited May 4, 2023 by TubularCorporation ignatius 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2944751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iococoi Posted May 20, 2023 Report Share Posted May 20, 2023 this looks rather interesting Quote On Minimalism moves from the style's beginnings in psychedelic counterculture through its present-day influences on ambient jazz, doom metal, and electronic music. The editors look beyond the major figures to highlight crucial and diverse voices—especially women, people of color, and LGBTQ+ musicians—that have shaped the genre. Featuring more than a hundred rare historical sources, On Minimalism curates this history anew, documenting one of the most important musical movements of our time. https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520382084/on-minimalism#table-of-contents Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2945947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 5:13 PM, iococoi said: On Minimalism moves from the style's beginnings in psychedelic counterculture through its present-day influences on ambient jazz, doom metal, and electronic music. Nice. I remember in college, around '99 or 2000, I played a track by The Monks for a theory class as an example of early influence of minimalism outside of academic music. The professor wasn't having any of it, and the only comment he had beyond "I don't hear any similarity" was that the bass was out of tune and they couldn't play very well. A year or two later I found an interview with Gary Burger where the talked quite a bit about how Steve Reich in particular was a big influence on the band at the time, and he considered their music a sort of primitive rock It's nice to see more people making those (IMO completely obvious) connections in academic settings over the last decade or so. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2946489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted May 28, 2023 Report Share Posted May 28, 2023 Iannis Xenakis - Formalized Music: Thought and Mathematics in Music o00o 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2946542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iococoi Posted July 8, 2023 Report Share Posted July 8, 2023 On 5/25/2022 at 7:21 AM, iococoi said: https://ubu.com/media/text/emr/books/oram_anindividual.pdf actually, the whole section is excellente ... Quote We've taken the filing cabinet as our model, rather than the museum, and our focus is on historical and rare material rather than recent developments. We've chosen to exclude contemporary work here not because it is less relevant, but because it already takes care of itself. https://ubu.com/emr/index.html Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2951766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted July 14, 2023 Report Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) https://archive.org/details/TheManualHowToHaveANumber1TheEasyWay I've reread it every few years since the early 2000s and it's better every time. Starting to get the ball rolling on a new album right now, and this one's going to be even more Manual-influenced than usual, I think. Edited July 14, 2023 by TubularCorporation iococoi 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/101225-books-on-music-composition-catered-to-electronic-musicians/#findComment-2952418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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