muttering mouth moth Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 "March 25 (Reuters) - A U.S. judge has ruled that an online library operated by the nonprofit organization Internet Archive infringed the copyrights of four major U.S. publishers by lending out digitally scanned copies of their books." https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-judge-rules-internet-archives-digital-book-lending-violates-copyrights-2023-03-25/ I've been seeing a lot of people talking about this, saying that it'll be the modern Library of Alexandria if archive.org goes under. What's everyone's take on this? Either way, I went and downloaded some Wisp rarities and Sleepy Town Manufacture last night just in case. Anybody got any good recommendations? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide muttering mouth moth's signature Hide all signatures Still frightened of that candle... Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) https://archive.org/details/inourgarden Edited March 25, 2023 by TubularCorporation muttering mouth moth, ignatius and prdctvsm 1 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 fcuk those copyrights. hopefully they argue that internet archive is acting as a library.. which also lends out books. ARPA and cern 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdctvsm Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 muttering mouth moth, milkface, neglectedlove and 4 others 7 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-a-m-o Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 Thanks for Coil full discography prdctvsm and Rubin Farr 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdctvsm Posted March 25, 2023 Report Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 11:07 PM, d-a-m-o said: Thanks for analord chenGOD, muttering mouth moth and ignatius 1 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 thanks 4 all the evangelion books, boc old tapes and nirvana the band the show... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttering mouth moth Posted March 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 8:07 PM, ignatius said: fcuk those copyrights. hopefully they argue that internet archive is acting as a library.. which also lends out books. I'm wondering if this will just impact their ability to lend out books or if it'll cause the whole site to get shut down. I'm sure it'll impact ebook borrowing and lending in general. Might even impact physical brick-and-mortar libraries too. But I would hope that everything else like public domain books, films, music, etc. wouldn't be affected. I hope. I read further and saw that a lot of the lawsuit had to do with the CDL program they were using. They either got rid of the wait lists or made them more lenient towards how many people were borrowing ebooks at a time during covid. Also side note, author Chuck Wendig threw his support behind the publishing companies and the lawsuit and got bullied so hard he locked his twitter account and issued an apology. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide muttering mouth moth's signature Hide all signatures Still frightened of that candle... Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdctvsm Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 12:09 AM, cruising for burgers said: thanks 4 all dem 320 Newbuild by 808 State cruising for burgers 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 but, internet archive has copyrighted stuff right? making it ilegal? I never looked at it as a complete legal site... those Eva books I mentioned are copyright protected but random dudes just decided to upload them... anyway I have no clue what I'm talking about as always... ミ●﹏☉ミ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 6:25 AM, prdctvsm said: Expand Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cruising for burgers's signature Hide all signatures https://www.instagram.com/ancestralwaves/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 8:07 PM, ignatius said: fcuk those copyrights. hopefully they argue that internet archive is acting as a library.. which also lends out books. But libraries pay for hard copies of the books and have special copyright laws? They need to argue they are something else, because they are so very important in preserving human knowledge and culture (like that amazing film "In Our Garden"). muttering mouth moth 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdctvsm Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) On 3/26/2023 at 6:32 AM, cruising for burgers said: illegalraveacidhousein1989 ((:: Edited March 26, 2023 by prdctvsm ((:: J3FF3R00 and cruising for burgers 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 thx for Fat Chicks In Party Hats & Fenslerfilm GI Joe dubs ignatius 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 26, 2023 Report Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) On 3/26/2023 at 6:28 AM, cruising for burgers said: but, internet archive has copyrighted stuff right? making it ilegal? I never looked at it as a complete legal site... those Eva books I mentioned are copyright protected but random dudes just decided to upload them... anyway I have no clue what I'm talking about as always... ミ●﹏☉ミ Yeah, this. I always wondered how they got away with “lending out” ebooks like that. I’m against overbearing copyright as much as the next guy (maybe even against copyright period) but labeling yourself an archive doesn’t give you the right to start passing around copies of each and every file that comes your way. They can’t not have seen this coming. Edited March 26, 2023 by Limo Typo Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 feeling like I'm the only one who didn't use archive.org for pirating, wtf I just want access to weird old films and propaganda and the occasional long-out-of-print book plz. and a place that will publicly host my tunes until the end of days prdctvsm, aencre, milkface and 4 others 7 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide luke viia's signature Hide all signatures GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet HAMLET: no GHOST: why HAMLET: fuck you is why im going to the cemetery to touch skulls [planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]] Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 3:51 AM, luke viia said: I just want access to weird old films and propaganda and the occasional long-out-of-print book plz. hashtag same wayback machine too prdctvsm, ARPA, BobDobalina and 1 other 4 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 3:51 AM, luke viia said: a place that will publicly host my tunes until the end of days Why does this remind me of the Library of Babel? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdctvsm Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 9:21 AM, Limo said: Library of Babel https://ia800607.us.archive.org/5/items/TheLibraryOfBabel/babel.pdf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 3:51 AM, luke viia said: feeling like I'm the only one who didn't use archive.org for pirating, wtf No idea it devolved into this before tripping thru the acid house wormhole in this thread... lordy. Could've sworn just a few years ago the musics were mostly just live sets from a smattering of artists with fanbois into the tape-sharing scene. On 3/27/2023 at 11:01 AM, prdctvsm said: https://ia800607.us.archive.org/5/items/TheLibraryOfBabel/babel.pdf I'm about halfway thru reading Ficciones at this very moment (a $4 used paperback mind u), so I'm guessing a coincidence like this was inevitable - On 3/27/2023 at 3:51 AM, luke viia said: and a place that will publicly host my tunes until the end of days You can't just hold out another 18-24 months? luke viia and prdctvsm 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BobDobalina's signature Hide all signatures CA$HNE$$ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Warrior Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 It makes me feel like a huge manchild that everyone is using this site for books, except me who uses it to download ps1 and N64 roms for my vita EdamAnchorman and neglectedlove 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkface Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) It's got some amazing stuff to download on it but the web page archive is by far the coolest feature, like this snapshot of WATMM in October 2003 or ebay in January 1999 Edited March 27, 2023 by milkface muttering mouth moth, cruising for burgers and prdctvsm 2 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide milkface's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neglectedlove Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 8:21 PM, Amen Warrior said: It makes me feel like a huge manchild that everyone is using this site for books, except me who uses it to download ps1 and N64 roms for my vita ROMS are an amazing part of the archive along with old DJ setlist too, discovered lots of old arcade games that became my favourites thru it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 8:21 PM, Amen Warrior said: It makes me feel like a huge manchild that everyone is using this site for books, except me who uses it to download ps1 and N64 roms for my vita On 3/27/2023 at 8:25 PM, milkface said: It's got some amazing stuff to download on it but the web page archive is by far the coolest feature, like this snapshot of WATMM in October 2003 or ebay in January 1999 On 3/27/2023 at 8:53 PM, neglectedlove said: ROMS are an amazing part of the archive along with old DJ setlist too, discovered lots of old arcade games that became my favourites thru it. This is why its so much more than a library. Like my public library is dope - they lend musical instruments, have makerspaces, etc. but look at all this knowledge that is up on archive. Intellectual Property laws need significant change. Lawrence Lessig kind of got at it 12 years ago (earlier than that actually but this speech to the World Intellectual Property Organization is amazing) here. 30 minutes well spent. EdamAnchorman, luke viia and milkface 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 what.cd going under was the Alexandria event of the 2010s. MaartenVC and zero 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/103635-internet-archive-lawsuit/#findComment-2941642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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