Do you use preset patches on your plugins?

I was curious how you all felt about using presets, especially on the more complicated synth plugins? I have had fun in the past building sounds from scratch, but in something like Massive, there's a million different permutations, and sometimes, other people have already made interesting presets on there - I think if I were to use them, it would be as a starting point, and then I would try to understand what is interesting about the sound and how I want to tweak it, but how do you all feel about using presets? Is it something you do in your own process?

For something like the very basic FM plugins, I like to make my own, since it's a lot of fun - but when something has the capacity to build it's own chains/modules etc...

Thinking about this because I'm starting to work on music again with my friend

This question could also apply to ready made sample packs - again, I've made a bunch of my own, but I've also used other people's free sample packs, I can see the merit in both

I used too, but slowly and painfully I started creating my own library of patches and I create more from those, so I have many original stuff. Now I can't use presets since they don't sound like me.