dr lopez Posted March 7, 2024 Report Share Posted March 7, 2024 lol Reveal hidden contents aencre and ignatius 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted March 7, 2024 Report Share Posted March 7, 2024 (edited) "critiques of contemporary retardedness" this will be fine. https://nn-audio.bandcamp.com/album/servant-of-the-people <a href="https://watmmrecords.bandcamp.com/album/we-are-the-music-makers-volume-one">We Are The Music Makers | Volume One by Various</a> Edited March 7, 2024 by ignatius xox 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted March 7, 2024 Report Share Posted March 7, 2024 has he always been like this? actually I'm not even sure I fully understand the artist's intention here but falling into culture war discourse is... ignatius 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted March 7, 2024 Report Share Posted March 7, 2024 On 3/7/2024 at 7:23 PM, Bubba69 said: has he always been like this? actually I'm not even sure I fully understand the artist's intention here but falling into culture war discourse is... i've always thought of him as a thoughtful person who considers things reasonably but who knows what this is about. the track is basically noise and drones and samples. often i think when people say things like that it's because of a very personal specific experience. but as said.. who knows... the interview w/him by jamie lidell from his podcast is really good btw. https://podtail.com/podcast/hanging-out-with-audiophiles/howa-ep-79-atom/ https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2hhbmdpbmdvdXR3aXRoYXVkaW9waGlsZXMubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M/episode/YzY5ZDJiOWYtMzQzNy00OTQxLTg2NDktNzgyNTNlYTNkYWE4 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted March 7, 2024 Report Share Posted March 7, 2024 On 3/7/2024 at 7:28 PM, ignatius said: i've always thought of him as a thoughtful person who considers things reasonably but who knows what this is about. the track is basically noise and drones and samples. often i think when people say things like that it's because of a very personal specific experience. but as said.. who knows... the interview w/him by jamie lidell from his podcast is really good btw. https://podtail.com/podcast/hanging-out-with-audiophiles/howa-ep-79-atom/ https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2hhbmdpbmdvdXR3aXRoYXVkaW9waGlsZXMubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M/episode/YzY5ZDJiOWYtMzQzNy00OTQxLTg2NDktNzgyNTNlYTNkYWE4 Expand Actually, I think I listened to that interview, or part of it, a few months ago, my memory is shit. Yeah I'm a fan of his generally speaking, he's a genius, but I could imagine seeing some of his past work getting scrutinized by the woke mob. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted March 7, 2024 Report Share Posted March 7, 2024 interesting. some of the idealogical motivation for this might be detected here: https://atom-tm.com/blog/2023/07/14/entry-14-historie-und-hysterie-ii-keynote/ . hard to summarize but a key point being made has to do with the appropriation of electronic music/club culture by private corporate interests that sanitize the collective and subversive thrust of this subculture in order to make it more profitable and easier to exploit for personal profile development. in other words, perhaps he sees "woke" conventional wisdom in the club community as a pro-capitalist appropriation of its historically radical origins? but this does fit into the greater picture of his work which has always had a sense of humor and satirical dimension, always poking fun at trends of the zeitgeist. relevant for us is his "Real Intelligence" series, spoofing on warp's "Artificial Intelligence" and here the explicitly anti-"imperialist pop" message of HD. i don't think it's too hard to see how hyper-capitalist entities and consumers use ostensibly woke language or concepts to push themselves up in a system that's inherently exploitative and oppressive for the very minorities it claims to valorize. he's a cheeky lad, my first impression is this fits into his basic agenda of being a goof and being something of a leftist. i think we're probably just used to being more comfortable with him toying with less sacred cows dr lopez, chenGOD, Bubba69 and 3 others 5 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted March 7, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2024 rubin farr's thoughts contemporary retardedness ? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2024 Report Share Posted March 7, 2024 On 3/7/2024 at 8:23 PM, Alcofribas said: i don't think it's too hard to see how hyper-capitalist entities and consumers use ostensibly woke language or concepts to push themselves up in a system that's inherently exploitative and oppressive for the very minorities it claims to valorize This seems like a good idea to push against this, but wouldn't it be more effective if it were done with good music? I think this track is already protected from any risk of co-option by the capitalists due to it being entirely unappealing on an auditory level Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted March 7, 2024 Report Share Posted March 7, 2024 On 3/7/2024 at 9:34 PM, taphead said: This seems like a good idea to push against this, but wouldn't it be more effective if it were done with good music? I think this track is already protected from any risk of co-option by the capitalists due to it being entirely unappealing on an auditory level I haven’t quite been able to get a feel for his stuff in the past few years. It seems he’s been exploring a very different technological setup recently and everything coming out feels like experiments of this. Just my guess based on some interviews and stuff. Pop HD seems like a good example of what you’re suggesting tho imo On 3/7/2024 at 9:03 PM, dr lopez said: rubin farr's thoughts contemporary retardedness ? Unsubscribe Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted March 7, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2024 yeah ftr Uwe is quite literally a musical genius so this tweet took me a little off guard I'll be honest lol. not that he shouldn't be critical of current movements in media and culture more broadly but it did seem to reference or allude to some internet edgelord shit which seemed a bit beneath someone as creative as he is. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 On 3/7/2024 at 9:34 PM, taphead said: This seems like a good idea to push against this, but wouldn't it be more effective if it were done with good music? I think this track is already protected from any risk of co-option by the capitalists due to it being entirely unappealing on an auditory level I really like this opening track. On 3/7/2024 at 9:54 PM, dr lopez said: not that he shouldn't be critical of current movements in media and culture more broadly but it did seem to reference or allude to some internet edgelord shit which seemed a bit beneath someone as creative as he is. I wish that the "culture wars" were limited to edgelord shit but look at mainstream politics and media. It's all a virulent cesspool of who can be the most offended on either side of the aisle, to garner votes from the actual vulnerable populations they're supposed to be representing (LGBTQ2S+, poor white folk, Black Americans, Asian-Americans etc.), or exploiting that shit for monetary gain. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 On 3/7/2024 at 9:54 PM, dr lopez said: yeah ftr Uwe is quite literally a musical genius so this tweet took me a little off guard I'll be honest lol. not that he shouldn't be critical of current movements in media and culture more broadly but it did seem to reference or allude to some internet edgelord shit which seemed a bit beneath someone as creative as he is. I think he’s been flirting with a much deeper cultural critique for several years now. He’s been explicit about his loathing of electronic music culture and I think the conformist trends of social media are absorbed into this disdain. But he hasn’t laid it all out, really. Maybe he won’t ever do so since he’s an artist not a social theorist or smth. I don’t conflate what he’s doing with edgelord shit. I think there’s a lot behind the scenes and he’s presented it in a very typical laconic, goofy visual way. The art is for instance perfectly in keeping with Rather Interesting’s aesthetic. I think the times have changed so it has a different feel, though. I’m hoping for more written stuff from him tbh but I don’t necessarily expect it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascdi Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 Quote Audio available in hi-res, 96 kHz/32 Bit. lol Don’t know why this topic has compelled me to post, but imo although dude is definitely a musical genius, I don’t personally think that genius extends to the depth or quality of his conceptual gags. They’ve always seemed pretty surface to me. But hopefully there is something here and it’s not, as was mentioned above, just edge lord shit. kuniklo 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2973987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 A bit more context comes from his "irregular newsletter": Quote As a nod to irrationality, NN unveils "Servant of the People." Through sonic intensity and a resolute rejection of sociability, this track, the inaugural piece in a series of four, strongly critiques the crudeness of contemporary retardedness, coupled with a staunch opposition to hegemonic linguistic censorship. It serves not only as a cacophonous commentary on current world leaders but also as a spirited applause to everyday activists, as well as to the whimsical realms of unicorns and bananas. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuniklo Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 On 3/8/2024 at 2:29 AM, ascdi said: Don’t know why this topic has compelled me to post, but imo although dude is definitely a musical genius, I don’t personally think that genius extends to the depth or quality of his conceptual gags. They’ve always seemed pretty surface to me. But hopefully there is something here and it’s not, as was mentioned above, just edge lord shit. 100% this. I have tremendous respect for him as a musician. Not keen to see him wade into this stuff. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iococoi Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 (edited) he's finally gone coconuts..i wonder if he headlines that ФЦҬLЇЙԐ thingy again this year.. Edited March 8, 2024 by iococoi Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumbass Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 The track does nothing for me It's all getting a little pretentious Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kausto Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 'Insulting the DJ' 2020s style d-a-m-o 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 Lmfao what is this track Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ivan Ooze's signature Hide all signatures On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said: This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song! On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said: I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 It’s too late, he’s already been cancelled on Xitter. https://x.com/dalecornish/status/1765789943706660984?s=46&t=lzb--cRIkaiKMari_HPNtg Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted March 8, 2024 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 yes this is the biggest issue with doing that sort of stuff. not worth it. however, best way forward is to just never apologize. don't double down either; just move on. oh god he's replying to everyone... NOOOOO o00o, thumbass and ignatius 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dr lopez's signature Hide all signatures On 11/24/2015 at 12:29 PM, Salvatorin said: I feel there is a baobab tree growing out of my head, its leaves stretch up to the heavens Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 (edited) On 3/8/2024 at 5:09 PM, dr lopez said: oh god he's replying to everyone... NOOOOO it's really not worth dying on that hill. edit: not on twitter so can't see all the replies.. but nooooo! Edited March 8, 2024 by ignatius Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 On 3/8/2024 at 5:09 PM, dr lopez said: yes this is the biggest issue with doing that sort of stuff. not worth it. however, best way forward is to just never apologize. don't double down either; just move on. oh god he's replying to everyone... NOOOOO uwe on Rogan when? ignatius 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 IDM or IDW? you decide ignatius 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted March 8, 2024 Report Share Posted March 8, 2024 (edited) Just bought this: https://atomtm.bandcamp.com/album/live-volume-8 it’s really nice especially the last part Edited March 8, 2024 by o00o Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104652-atom-tm-servant-of-the-people-woke-series/#findComment-2974064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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