kaini Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 this has been out a while, and i've been enjoying it for a while, based on a very favourable wire review. dunno why i didn't make a thread before. Quote Recently, at an old friend’s wedding, I showed up wearing a brand-new and, if I may toot my own horn, badass suit. People were shocked. I don’t suppose that it was the suit itself that surprised them. It was probably the fact that, after a sartorial career littered with Goodwill purchases and loudly-proclaimed allergies to labels, that I’d been caught trying to make myself look good in the first place. “Jesus, James,” everyone might as well have been saying with their eyes, “what’d you do with that ‘ironically’ monogrammed bowling shirt you wore every day back in ninth grade?” I bring this up because having been introduced to James Holden as a rising Young Turk of—ugh—“progressive trance” around the turn of the century, it’s almost hard to swallow his recent reinvention as the tip of the sword currently piercing the heart of monumentally overt dance music. I say “almost,” because anyone oblivious to the charms of Holden’s work following his oonce-oonce-oonce-ier days might as well jam a meat thermometer in their ear. From the output of his Border Community label to the remix work he’s done for artists like Nathan Fake and Depeche Mode, Holden can arguably claim as large a slice of the Seismically Beautiful Modern Electronica pie as anyone else on the planet. This is not up for argument. But whenever I start considering the merits of his work beyond their value as purely narcotic aesthetic experiences, I always end up in this infuriating feedback loop: just how much credit would you be tempted to give to someone introduced to you by virtue of a DJ Trancey McTrancealott set? Fortunately, The Idiots Are Winning, Holden’s gorgeously magisterial debut LP, circumvents the question by throwing Holden’s most mortifying characteristics right in your face. Anyone who goes into Holden’s album without a predisposition to worship at the altar of Techno Music For Techno Music’s Sake is pretty much up the creek without a paddle; suffice it to say that if your friends only appreciated Jacques Lu Cont’s remix of “Mr. Brightside” for the way it let them find a new way to bop and drunkenly howl along to Brandon Flowers’ lyrics, you probably don’t need to waste your breath detailing The Idiots Are Winning’s merits. This is a trance album in the truest sense; Holden may adorn his songs’ structures with hazy textural decay and maddeningly inexplicit rhythms rather than car-commercial arpeggios and breathy diva vocals, but they still break down and reassemble themselves in a way immediately familiar to even the most pill-addled glow-sticker. Fortunately for Holden’s position in the canon, The Idiots Are Winning is also really, really, really good. If you can get past the lamentably passé idiom from which it springs, Holden’s album offers up unabashed virtuosity; there’s practically more instruction about how and why a song can rip itself to shreds and sew itself back together on The Idiots Are Winning’s opening track “Lump” than in entirety of The Knife’s discography. See also: “Idiot,” which celebrates the virtues of stiffness, marrying itself to a rigid 4-4 beat and then populating its empty space with synths which move and breathe easily into the cracks afforded them. It’s an engrossing approach to trance music—hell, for my money it’s an engrossing approach to music full-stop. Anyone with even a passing fascination with the genre’s signifiers needs to at least give it a shot, if just to hear what Holden’s done to them. Will I be listening to it in twenty years? I dunno; given all but the greatest dance music’s half-life, I’d guess not. Of course, I doubt I’ll be wearing that suit in two decades either. But that’s wasn’t the point of buying it. All I ever meant to do was wear the fuck out of it now. pros: four absolutely amazing tracks with some really fresh melodic ideas and good sample stuff. cons: essentially an ep disguised as an album. putting a 2min+ track of silence in there is taking the piss. anyway the good stuff that is on it makes it well worth the entry price. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 ive been meaning to slsk this for a while just in case it lives up to reviews ive read though i havent tried too hard cause albums very rarely do Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/#findComment-398541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylonbitch Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 kaini said: putting a 2min+ track of silence in there is taking the piss. presumably a cover of magic window, right? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide pylonbitch's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/#findComment-398601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IBM Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 it's pretty average fare, "intentionally left blank" was the highlight Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/#findComment-398611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grizz Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Its a good album but it hasn't lived up to the hype. Its been in my "must listen more" pile since it came out but I'm not often in the mood, and that silence track is plain stupid. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/#findComment-398618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
onecaseman Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Meh. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/#findComment-398730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mooncup Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 any nathan barley samples? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/#findComment-398803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neto Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 I want the vinyl edition of this, the artwork is cool Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/#findComment-399058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted April 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 i maintain the second half is sort of disposable. how awesome would the five great tracks, as an ep, on vinyl coloured like the artwork be? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/#findComment-399061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrd Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) This is getting a repress! Splattered vinyl, Edition of 1000 https://driftrecords.com/products/james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning-2019-reissue?variant=12260769628207 https://boomkat.com/products/the-idiots-are-winning https://www.normanrecords.com/records/177680-holden-the-idiots-are-winning https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/holden/holden-the-idiots-are-winning-splatter-vinyl-edition Edited August 4, 2019 by andrd Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/#findComment-2734351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
species8472 Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 nice! def grabbing a copy. crazy how long ago this came out. thanks for the tip. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/19573-james-holden-the-idiots-are-winning/#findComment-2734660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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