Jam 201

first impressions, piano has no treble at all.

enjoying the strings..

good to hear some classical music on this board.

ok, finished, yeah i enjoyed that, it was good, but the mastering was very flakey.. the actual samples sound good, but there's no eq, or panning on them and it makes it seem dull, even though it's quite a chirpy tune.

overall, good little track, could be a lot longer, better mastering, panning etc, take it a bit further perhaps.

Anyway, keep it up.

thanks. As I say it's rough, I only knocked it up in 40 minutes

  G. I. Raffe said:

thanks. As I say it's rough, I only knocked it up in 40 minutes

yeah but, come on, what's it take to add an EQ and add treble?.. 10 seconds?... for the sound quality you would improve it by is definitely worth the extra effort.

Ok, so the piano needs more treble.. WHat parts of it would you put panning on?

  G. I. Raffe said:

Ok, so the piano needs more treble.. WHat parts of it would you put panning on?

it doesn't have to be anything fancy.. it's just to space out the overall mix a bit better.

when the strings come in, pan the piano to the left, and the strings to the right, the same amount.. so,

15% left piano, 15% right strings..

Also, there's some VST mastering plugins which show you the main stereo image, and how lenient it is on both sides.. it's so you can get a basic jist of the main pan of the mix so it's not hard on either left or right..

so in your case, even if you done 15% left piano, 15% right strings, you may need to put 10% pan on the piano to better compensate for the strings because they have a more, lighter actual sound..

but anyway, that's getting a bit more technical.

  joshier said:

  G. I. Raffe said:

Ok, so the piano needs more treble.. WHat parts of it would you put panning on?

it doesn't have to be anything fancy.. it's just to space out the overall mix a bit better.

 

when the strings come in, pan the piano to the left, and the strings to the right, the same amount.. so,

 

15% left piano, 15% right strings..

 

Also, there's some VST mastering plugins which show you the main stereo image, and how lenient it is on both sides.. it's so you can get a basic jist of the main pan of the mix so it's not hard on either left or right..

 

so in your case, even if you done 15% left piano, 15% right strings, you may need to put 10% pan on the piano to better compensate for the strings because they have a more, lighter actual sound..

 

but anyway, that's getting a bit more technical.

ok thanks, i'm really interested in this. I put EQ on the piano and panning through (25% eitherway)

this what you're talking about?Jam_201_02.mp3

  G. I. Raffe said:

  joshier said:

  G. I. Raffe said:

Ok, so the piano needs more treble.. WHat parts of it would you put panning on?

it doesn't have to be anything fancy.. it's just to space out the overall mix a bit better.

 

when the strings come in, pan the piano to the left, and the strings to the right, the same amount.. so,

 

15% left piano, 15% right strings..

 

Also, there's some VST mastering plugins which show you the main stereo image, and how lenient it is on both sides.. it's so you can get a basic jist of the main pan of the mix so it's not hard on either left or right..

 

so in your case, even if you done 15% left piano, 15% right strings, you may need to put 10% pan on the piano to better compensate for the strings because they have a more, lighter actual sound..

 

but anyway, that's getting a bit more technical.

ok thanks, i'm really interested in this. I put EQ on the piano and panning through (25% eitherway)

 

this what you're talking about?Jam_201_02.mp3

Yes, that's a lot better, the piano on the EQ spectrum is as follows:

40 - 100hz bottom

100-200hz fullness

200-800hz muddiness

800-1000hz muddiness

1000-5000hz presence

5000-8000hz clarity

8000-12,000hz harmonics

I done a quick 5 minute job on it, cut the audio in 3 bits because I don't have the individual instrument channels, (used lives default filter), EQ'd and stereo imaged them independently, then applied an EQ on the main channel.

p.s. I'm not sure what is causing it, but, every time the string midi note is triggered, the sample creates a high clip, might want to check your buffer settings or sample rate for that. (it's a lot more noticeable in my version because I went over it with the eq, then noticed it later)

that's interesting, did you master the original one or the 2nd one (_02)?

  G. I. Raffe said:

that's interesting, did you master the original one or the 2nd one (_02)?

original.

It's easier to enhance a mono-ish track, than having to change around the EQ's as particular instruments are being panned.

thanks for the info - mastering is something I want to .. master