am tired of this ableton shit!

fuck fuck fuck, i live in the skunk cum drunken soaked rag of the world, (apart from Africa) this steaming wax hole has nothing avaliable to buy. last i recall was a 909 for $1500. all i use is ableton fooinhg live, with moog arturia vsts. i bought a microkorg, but its sounds like ableton sounds...plasticy shit. anythign i see on ebay is double cause i'm stuck in the isolationist society called perth. all i desire is some hardware shit, so that i can at least try to make electroic music away from vsts, computers and shit. though using ableton as sequencer would be cool. so for the last mothablunking time, anyone from these pits want to show me the light to hardware goodness?, as in the good stuff, not micro/nords/korgs/borgs or ms2000s or anything that sounds plastic and shit.?

this may be directed at those of you in perth or australia...where the fuck do you get your shit?

peace out mofo watmm crew

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also note that i looking for reconmendations of good hardware...maybe he moog rouge? am currently in this feeling of toxic acid city

If you're looking for inspiration, buying a new piece of hardware is just a quick-fix. You will soon return to your current state.

look at it this way: Imagine if someone from 15 years ago could have a future-demo of ableton live + vstis. Their minds would be blown!

i guess iam just a fucking shit producer.

cheers syntheme, i like it when dim fountains milk from that porcelain woman sculptures tit in front you where you are on the wall.

...big up BCM

i know what you mean about wanting to get away from using computers and that - much more fun programming on hardware IMO. I'm surprised you don't like the sound of you MicroKorg - I know it's just an analogue modelling jobbie, but should still sound better that most VST's (unless you've got a shit hot computer/soundcard setup). I'm also trying to get a hardware setup together and have just been buying what I can afford when I see it - doesn't have to be analogue or a "classic" synth - as long as I've got my multitracker + some effects, I can get loads of sounds and patterns out of almost anything.

So my advice would be to get a digital multitrack recorder, stick with your MicroKorg, maybe try and pick up a cheap drum machine + some effects and you should have a pretty powerful set up..... you can then just add bits and bobs as you can afford - e.g. a good mixer, MIDI converter, monitors, more synths....

Safe.

nords dont sound plasticy at all. Nord modulrs are lush as all hell.

i'll gladly take the microkorg off your hands. i'll even trade a broken yamaha portasound! is that a deal or WHAT!

Seriously though, you're not looking hard enough. I've found plenty of awesome hardware around here, ok Perth doesn't have nearly as much as say, Sydney or Melbourne, but you just have to know where to look. Independent second-hand stores, sometimes even Cash Converters (but they might be expensive). I saw a TR-505 at Cash Converters in Belmont for $100 a couple of weeks ago, but decided against it because I'm moving anyway. I've also come across a 606 but that was when I had absolutely no money at all. Just scour the suburbs, that's where you'll find the awesome stuff, you won't get anywhere whining on a forum.

Either that or ebay damnit.

whoa where did you come across the 606?

im rockin a waldorf pulse rack thing atm, and it sounds fuckin cool.

microkorg - plasticy?

nope, i'm not giving you that.

i think its just the small keys, and plastic knobs

  môak said:

whoa where did you come across the 606?

EJAY's Music Services, in Maddington. The absolute last musical instrument store you'd expect to find anything in, it was run by an old country music fan, selling mostly guitars.

Last time I went there (about 5 years ago perhaps?) it was gone.

But that's what I mean though, you just have to look in the most obscure places. I saw a DX7 in a secondhand store once, I really wish I had the money to buy it!

Also, if you don't like the microkorg's keys/knobs, why not buy a nice midi keyboard to control it with? Then at some stage if you acquire a rackmount synth you can use it with both.

Also also, guitar effects are highly underrated when it comes to synths. I managed to make my Casio CT-370 emulate everything from the sounds in "Curtains" from SAW2, to a huge growly bassline, all using the 'flute' preset, a cheap Zoom 505, a cheap wah pedal, and a DOD Death Metal distortion.

yeah and small keys and plastic knobs really effect the sound.

they do if you're hitting it with an steel pipe

question for microkorg users.. does the audio in act like the audio/line in on a ms-20? with all the oscillators and filters ready to fuck up some sound?

i cant think of any synth that ive ever seen that didnt have plastic knobs...

buying hardware can be good as you 'force yourself' to use it as you bought it and so become more dedicated as oppossed to having the internet and a million of free vsts

and of course its great to get away from laptops im sick of them.

  feta lol said:

i cant think of any synth that ive ever seen that didnt have plastic knobs...

now that you mention it, my digital nord modular has metal/rubber knobs and my analog dotcom modular has plastic knobs.