How to process breaks so they sound beefy

I'm not that good at processing breaks so they sound beefy. Often they end up sounding a bit nasty on the ears where as I want to be able to make beats so they have a nice fat tone but don't hurt the ears at loud volumes. How do u turn a weedy sounding break into a fat sounding break which just has muscle to it with it sounding harsh on the ears. Hope I make sense. Cheers.

good EQ, gating, compression, and layering (ie, sneak some 808 kicks in their subtely

Definately about the layering. Real drums just don't have the punch and, more descriptively, don't have the broad-spectrum coverage that electronic drums will.... like all of those classic Michael Jackson hits had 606/Linndrum/808's layered underneath the drum kit to give it that pop.

  Kcinsu said:

good EQ, gating, compression, and layering (ie, sneak some 808 kicks in their subtely

Mmm I do kinda do some of that already. Mmm I guess I'm just not too hot at it or perhaps my samples are really shit. I've noticed that a lot of folks are really processing the amen well so it sounds even better for example. I'm not amazingly down with supa sped up amen but a beefy as fuck 175bpm amen cut up still fuckin' rock my socks.

I still REALLY admire the Prodigy Experience era drum beats, they are so fat (phat) but ironically that was probably because of lack of good equipment.

layer

compress

choose only the awesomest sounds

eq, make like three of the same track, then slightly move the samples out of time, and change the pitch subtly

  Josso said:

I still REALLY admire the Prodigy Experience era drum beats, they are so fat (phat) but ironically that was probably because of lack of good equipment.

so THAT'S why the new album sucked

let's go rob liam for the good of electronica

compression dude. also exciters and limiters etc.... check your levels, make sure you don't peak too high, try and get a good amount of high end EQ in there to compensate for the beefed up low end - run the break through an analyser to see where the troughs are and use an equaliser to boost the respective frequencies if you're being really anal about it.

play the beatz upside down

or inside out.

and overeasy

wear a hat while sequencing, keeps the heat from escaping

  pantsonmyhead said:

layer

compress

processing a break is easy man, you just need to have a pair of good ears or some decent monitors.

the key to it is just Eq, Layering and Compression.

when you layer you can achive the pop or click sound in each hit by fucking with the adsr.

here is a regular break used for hiphop

i just processed it by making it mono, layering it 3 times fucking with the adsr sending the main break to a lp filter at 200 hz to give it that rumble and compressed and eq'd the master

be shure to check out the processed break last

hiphop_loop.wavFetching info...

processed_break.wavFetching info...

  producer snafu said:

  pantsonmyhead said:

layer

compress

 

processing a break is easy man, you just need to have a pair of good ears or some decent monitors.

 

the key to it is just Eq, Layering and Compression.

 

when you layer you can achive the pop or click sound in each hit by fucking with the adsr.

 

here is a regular break used for hiphop

 

i just processed it by making it mono, layering it 3 times fucking with the adsr sending the main break to a lp filter at 200 hz to give it that rumble and compressed and eq'd the master

 

be shure to check out the processed break last

that just sounds muddier and thicker in the bass

On Experience and Music for the Jilted Generation Liam used a TR-909 to underpin the breakbeats in just about every track, I think that's what contributes to most of the phatness.

To beef up breakbeats grab yourself a nice compressor plugin, pull the threshold down to -20/-25, put the ratio up to 4 or 5, the make-up gain to about 12/15 then stick a limiter on the end with no input gain and -1.5db on the output for a bit of headroom and fiddle with settings to taste from there. My favourite software compressor is the Kjaerhus GCO-1.

  producer snafu said:

  pantsonmyhead said:

layer

compress

 

processing a break is easy man, you just need to have a pair of good ears or some decent monitors.

 

the key to it is just Eq, Layering and Compression.

 

when you layer you can achive the pop or click sound in each hit by fucking with the adsr.

 

here is a regular break used for hiphop

 

i just processed it by making it mono, layering it 3 times fucking with the adsr sending the main break to a lp filter at 200 hz to give it that rumble and compressed and eq'd the master

 

be shure to check out the processed break last

PROCESSED one sounds like drowned the kick with mids/lows and sped it up a little bit.

and a lot of compression.

subtle phasing can help a bit too - just dont use it enough so it recognisably phased. It can help the highs sound a bit more busy and full sometimes.

shitloads of fiber.

Bisto

  rex sole said:

On Experience and Music for the Jilted Generation Liam used a TR-909 to underpin the breakbeats in just about every track, I think that's what contributes to most of the phatness.

That really does make a lot of sense. The texture in most of the drum tracks is really thick and some of those breakbeats used in old skool rave aren't as awesome as they are on Experience. I've started experimenting with doing this kind of thing, subtly layering some 909/808 kicks underneath my amens or whatever - it works a treat if your careful

Ha ha I need to get me a decent version of Experience a rip some breaks from there. :angry:

Like anyone heard Equinox? His beats are fuckin' incredible they're just so deep and beefy.

  Promo said:

Ha ha I need to get me a decent version of Experience a rip some breaks from there. :angry:

 

Like anyone heard Equinox? His beats are fuckin' incredible they're just so deep and beefy.

A lot of them are mixed in too much with other stuff if I remember correctly. I have it on CD ;), throw me a PM or something if your interested

layer and compress slightly

phatten up the existing drums with some sub action or snare phatness

do a little parallell compression

then group it all together and use a really thick compressor like the blue tubes fairchild compressor really slightly to beef it just a little further