Salvatorin Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 okay, so basically every artist other than Vibert and maybe ambient rdj or ae, is about manic sounds, aggressive rhythms, basically energy. The listeners and energetic, aggressive, and very, very, cynical. BoC is very chilled and introspective, also somewhat mysterious with all the occult/lost tapes/redmoon/whatever...so the fans are obviously affected in that way. I think BoC fans are borderline social rejects and or hippie. (not implying anything) So theres obviously a big difference between you guys. Personally I find BoC fans nice people to converse the mystery of life with. It seems like the Watmm crowd would rather throw witty remarks around then actually go into philosophical matters, even if BoC's fans philosophic ideas are all unstructured and unfocused because of the inevitable truth that the fans are also fucked up from psychedelics. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest earlgrey Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I find Geogaddi very aggressive, and certain works by the other featured artists extremely relaxing/introspective/sublime. but, yeah, a person's preferred musical artist probably reflects a fair bit about their personality (or, at least, the personality they would like to have / represent themselves as having). Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest earlgrey Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) Salvatorin said: I think BoC fans are borderline social rejects and or hippie. (not implying anything) hmmm, I would probably expect BOC fans to be the most "well-adjusted" of the lot - hell, their songs are constantly on "chill out" compilations and ads/documentaries/etc. edit: fuck, i spent post #777 in the BOC subforum instead of the AE one Edited August 19, 2007 by earlgrey Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 earlgrey said: I find Geogaddi very aggressive, and certain works by the other featured artists extremely relaxing/introspective/sublime. but, yeah, a person's preferred musical artist probably reflects a fair bit about their personality (or, at least, the personality they would like to have / represent themselves as having). I truly think drukqs, although aggressive, is very introspective and thought-provoking, but when I say this, for some reason allot of people disagree. And Geogaddi is in a way aggressively unnerving. But I think people take this aggresiveness forgranted in most of the artists and percieve this as the normal emotion displayed... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 earlgrey said: Salvatorin said: I think BoC fans are borderline social rejects and or hippie. (not implying anything) hmmm, I would probably expect BOC fans to be the most "well-adjusted" of the lot - hell, their songs are constantly on "chill out" compilations and ads/documentaries/etc. edit: fuck, i spent post #777 in the BOC subforum instead of the AE one I'm talkin bout the REAL fans, not the ones who pick up a cd and listen to it quietly while they talk with their friends and drink port. :getlost: You know, the REAL fans who spend every living second of their life listening to it, and doing creepy stuff like going out to middle of nowhere and devoting a night in a tent listening to shortwave radio, those kinds of people, they are fo real. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest earlgrey Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Salvatorin said: You know, the REAL fans who spend every living second of their life listening to it, and doing creepy stuff like going out to middle of nowhere and devoting a night in a tent listening to shortwave radio, those kinds of people, they are fo real. Hmmm, yeah, I guess I just haven't met anyone like that so I can't relate. It amuses me that BOC generate that aura of mystery/occultness about them, I think it's a bit of fun like the over-the-top tongue-in-cheek bordering-on-camp theatrics that a lot of metal groups get into - 23 tracks, 66:06, and all that. I guess I forget that some fans take it all rather seriously. ps Quote screw u guys if your not REAL FANS do u think Marcus and Michael care what a bunch of lossers on an internet think about them. Ya so they dont write gay techno like Aphex Twins but there better then your ever gonna be. Maybe u guys should open you're mind a little bit, retards -Bixlee lol Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 seriously, after awhile, the behavior has absolutely nothing to do with BoC. I think its really becoming a subculture. I mean all the electronic music artists who emulate BoC, all the obsession, after awhile it will become a syle of its own. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alzado Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 thank you Captain Obvious Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Alzado's signature Hide all signatures RIP Farm Eagle Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Speedplay Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 I've never tried to read this forum. Now I know why Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Archrival Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) Salvatorin said: okay, so basically every artist other than Vibert and maybe ambient rdj or ae, is about manic sounds, aggressive rhythms, basically energy. The listeners and energetic, aggressive, and very, very, cynical. BoC is very chilled and introspective, also somewhat mysterious with all the occult/lost tapes/redmoon/whatever...so the fans are obviously affected in that way. I think BoC fans are borderline social rejects and or hippie. (not implying anything) So theres obviously a big difference between you guys. Personally I find BoC fans nice people to converse the mystery of life with. It seems like the Watmm crowd would rather throw witty remarks around then actually go into philosophical matters, even if BoC's fans philosophic ideas are all unstructured and unfocused because of the inevitable truth that the fans are also fucked up from psychedelics. True indeed and very well said. Most of my friends can relate to BOC but have a very hard time getting into people like venetian snares, its too aggressive and cynical (most friends of mine are very timid, respectful and quiet). Well BOCs TCH is more commercial than all of the stuf from the other artists on this site ofcourse, but I get your point. lol alzado is being a disrespectful cunt as always. Edited August 19, 2007 by Archrival Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest azAZ09 Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 i hate myself :'(((( Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnio Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 when reading some of the posts by some people around this forum, they look to me as a little bit naïve (like: "what would you do if there's no boc"). no offense to anyone in particular. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root5 Posted August 19, 2007 Report Share Posted August 19, 2007 Salvatorin said: You know, the REAL fans who spend every living second of their life listening to it, and doing creepy stuff like going out to middle of nowhere and devoting a night in a tent listening to shortwave radio, those kinds of people, they are fo real. On international dawn chorus day I listened to dawn chorus over and over again. But I'm not a crazy BOC fan because on April 14th I listened to Avril 14th over and over again (the drukqs version as well as the Acoustica version). Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Root5's signature Hide all signatures WATMM Christmas Albums: 2011 2012 2013 2014MOST IDM Tribute Albums: Incomplete Skyscrapers Rogue Planet Mycorhizae Olympus Mons HeadphonesOther Compilation Albums: Heading for Outer Space Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-526807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest earlgrey Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Root5 said: Salvatorin said: You know, the REAL fans who spend every living second of their life listening to it, and doing creepy stuff like going out to middle of nowhere and devoting a night in a tent listening to shortwave radio, those kinds of people, they are fo real. On international dawn chorus day I listened to dawn chorus over and over again. But I'm not a crazy BOC fan because on April 14th I listened to Avril 14th over and over again (the drukqs version as well as the Acoustica version). you're right, that definitely means you're not a crazy BOC fan. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-527119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root5 Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 earlgrey said: you're right, that definitely means you're not a crazy BOC fan. One crazy fanboyism cancels out the other, right? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Root5's signature Hide all signatures WATMM Christmas Albums: 2011 2012 2013 2014MOST IDM Tribute Albums: Incomplete Skyscrapers Rogue Planet Mycorhizae Olympus Mons HeadphonesOther Compilation Albums: Heading for Outer Space Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-527323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylonbitch Posted August 20, 2007 Report Share Posted August 20, 2007 Root5 said: earlgrey said: you're right, that definitely means you're not a crazy BOC fan. One crazy fanboyism compounds the other, right? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide pylonbitch's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-527336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 holy christ i love boc but you guys are rediculous Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide essines's signature Hide all signatures On 8/19/2011 at 11:51 PM, Luke Fucking Hazard said: Essines has, and always will remind me of MacReady. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-528088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyster Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 essines said: holy christ i love boc but you guys are rediculous Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oyster's signature Hide all signatures I'M SORRY FOR BEING ME I CAN'T HELP THE WAY I AM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-528094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest azAZ09 Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 essines said: holy christ i love boc but you guys are rediculous i agree with this man Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-528451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 holy christ i love you guys but boc is rediculous Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-529330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Odd NotsraM Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Salvatorin said: Personally I find BoC fans nice people to converse the mystery of life with..Lame. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-529344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skytree Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I thought everyone snuck into the woods after twilight every so often and did odd, inexplicable things in tents. This apparently is not the case...? Fuck. :: places bag of marbles, spirograph, and bag of ram's blood back in closet; sulks away sullenly :: Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-530139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 i'll sneak into the woods for a good fuck or something, but not to play boc tunes backwards and try pick up stray radio transmissions on my cv in hopes that it all fits together in some gigantic gay puzzle full of anal sex. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide essines's signature Hide all signatures On 8/19/2011 at 11:51 PM, Luke Fucking Hazard said: Essines has, and always will remind me of MacReady. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-530555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Archrival Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 te boc fanz is the cooolest ze worst is the VS fanz Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-530716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest earlgrey Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) experiments in social psychology have shown that divison into groups, even arbitrary ones, creates inter-group conflict and sterotyping: Peter Grey, Psychology, 4th edition, 2002, p.565 said: A now-famous study with 11- and 12-year-old boys at a 3-week camping program in Oklahoma's Robbers Cave Park [...] To establish two groups, the researchers divided the boys into two separate cabins ... within a few days, with little adult intervention, each cabin of boys acquired the characteristics of a distinct social group. Each group had its own leaders, its own rules and norms of behavior, and its own name - the Eagles and the Rattlers... [...the kids took part in competions and games and shit ...] As Sherif had predicted from previous research, the competitions promoted three changes in the relationships among the boys within and between groups: 1. Within-group solidarity: As the boys worked on plans to defeat the other group, they set aside their internal squabbles and differences, and their loyalty to their own group became even stronger than it was before. 2. Negative stereotyping of the other group: Even though the boys had all come from the same background (white, Protestant, and middle class) and had been assigned to the groups on a purely random basis, they began to see members of the other group as very different from themselves and as very similar to one another in negative ways. For example, the Eagles began to see the Rattlers as dirty and rough, and in order to distinguish themselves from that group they adopted a "goodness" norm and a "holier-than-thou" attitude. 3. Hostile between-group interactions: initial good sportsmanship collapsed. The boys began to call their rivals names, accuse them of cheating, and cheat in retaliation. After being defeated in one game, the Eagles burned one of the Rattlers' banners, which led to an escalating series of raids and other hostilities. What at first was a peaceful camping experience turned gradually into something verging on intertribal warfare. moral of the story: perhaps the mere division of the board into subforums generates "intertribal warfare" - negative stereotyping and name calling - between, say, the General Banterers and the BOC-o-philes. Edited August 23, 2007 by earlgrey Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/24961-why-you-all-hate-boc-fans/#findComment-530720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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