fitting breaks to a certain bpm

i read a little about this and it says to pitch them up or down accordingly

but if i don't know the bpm of the original break how should i do this?

is it just trial-and-error or is there a reliable process for it?

use FL

  LUDD said:

use FL

is that a joke?

no offense but i'm being serious

  tht! tne said:

  LUDD said:

use FL

 

is that a joke?

no offense but i'm being serious

It's worked for me. They have a very visual way to stretch or compress breaks to their grid.

no - i would recommend it for everything for any beginner

how about for smug assholes

Use the sync feature in Renoise - I really do advise doing that... I fit pretty much everything using that. If you don't know the BPM of the original break just guess it so it's not streched too much or whatever.

  tht! tne said:

i read a little about this and it says to pitch them up or down accordingly

but if i don't know the bpm of the original break how should i do this?

is it just trial-and-error or is there a reliable process for it?

I'd highly recommend you using Ableton. Ableton is excellent for making sure breaks stay perfectly in time. Its all about live mixing etc. I'd seriously advise getting Ableton. Once you get Ableton I can explain how you beat mark breaks so they stay perfectly in time no matter what the tempo is and you'll find its surprisingly easy and can take literally 10 secs.

in Renoise, change pattern length to 16 or 32 or something short

trigger the sample on the first step, press play, adjust the tempo until it restarts nearly in time

then adjust the sample's pitch in the instrument settings tab, either by changing the base note or the "fine tuning" drag bar.

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edit: unless you're adding it to a song already started, then it would be all pitch adjusting.

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sometimes i'll do a regular kick in another note lane, 4 or 8 steps apart playing ontop of the break to see if it's in sync.

i don't use uncut breaks often but that's what i did the last time i played with one and it seemed to work okay.

if you've got a swinging break that doesn't loop well, then just use that. throw in some offsets and such before it restarts and just never let it fully resolve. should keep it exciting

what promo said.

ableton is magic at this sort of thing... and you can rewire it straight into cubase so no fucking abo8ut.

arch your back

to find out tempo:

1. open loop in audio editor (wavosaur for example)

2. open file/properties to find out loop lenght in samples, lets say its 120273

3. use formula 10584000/120273=87.9998 bpm, so its 88bpm.

*10584000=44100(samples per second) x 60(seconds in minute) x 4(beats in loop)

or you can just use this online calculator to do the same thing. when the bpm is known, use "Changing the tempo of a loop with pitch-shifting" calculator on that page to find out how much you need to pitch your loop to get your desired bpm.

i now believe Velns's avatar

Load break > set it to play on the first line > turn on metronome > set to repeat pattern > start the sequence > change note and fine tune > tuned break!

That's all I can add other than really fucking rude comments.

you could spend half an hour timestretching it manually :confused:

otherwise i would recommend teh Ableton

  Josso said:

Use the sync feature in Renoise - I really do advise doing that... I fit pretty much everything using that. If you don't know the BPM of the original break just guess it so it's not streched too much or whatever.

I don't do this cuz I often like to pitch up/down the loop at times and that keeps it at the original pitch. I reccomend changing the base note 'till you get it right.

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I don't do this cuz I often like to pitch up/down the loop at times and that keeps it at the original pitch. I reccomend changing the base note 'till you get it right.

  Oscar said:

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I don't do this cuz I often like to pitch up/down the loop at times and that keeps it at the original pitch. I reccomend changing the base note 'till you get it right.

 

  Jimbob said:

you could spend half an hour timestretching it manually :confused:

otherwise i would recommend teh Ableton

Used to do that on Cubase 2.4. Glad i left that behind. Used to end up destroying the break in the end he he.

recycle

beat slicing and arranging is the way

C#5 01 64 11 40

recycle is pretty darn straightforward.

recycle and guru - sweet ass break shit

  Promo said:

  Jimbob said:

you could spend half an hour timestretching it manually :confused:

otherwise i would recommend teh Ableton

Used to do that on Cubase 2.4. Glad i left that behind. Used to end up destroying the break in the end he he.

oh the shame!

  Adjective said:

in Renoise, change pattern length to 16 or 32 or something short

trigger the sample on the first step, press play, adjust the tempo until it restarts nearly in time

then adjust the sample's pitch in the instrument settings tab, either by changing the base note or the "fine tuning" drag bar.

......

edit: unless you're adding it to a song already started, then it would be all pitch adjusting.

......

sometimes i'll do a regular kick in another note lane, 4 or 8 steps apart playing ontop of the break to see if it's in sync.

 

i don't use uncut breaks often but that's what i did the last time i played with one and it seemed to work okay.

if you've got a swinging break that doesn't loop well, then just use that. throw in some offsets and such before it restarts and just never let it fully resolve. should keep it exciting

What he said, that's basicly what I meant in my head.