The dBlue Glitch

http://illformed.org/glitch/

try it out, its really good.

phil has two shadows in that pic

doesn't the second one look like a squatty guy playing a guitar?

at any rate, jazzb7 covers philphex twin

i usually don't do this, but: b7 deluxxx

If i wanted to glitch something i would do it manually. Although i sometimes use supatrigga for a little variation on the drum patterns in my live shows. I am getting a little bored of that though: Mainly because it's lazy.

http://forum.watmm.com/index.php?s=&sh...st&p=542351

Read my post on the subject, imho if you use it really subtly it can be a powerful took without being all stereotyped.

it's an ok wee effects unit, but you have to be judiscious as fuck with it.

other wise it sounds like squarepusherizer.dll.

it is ultimately configureable though, and the level of glitch involvement is entirely up to you. if you know what you're doing. lol.

  loganfive said:

it's an ok wee effects unit, but you have to be judiscious as fuck with it.

 

 

other wise it sounds like squarepusherizer.dll.

 

 

it is ultimately configureable though, and the level of glitch involvement is entirely up to you. if you know what you're doing. lol.

exactly. it seems JUST ABOUT everyone is in agreement here.

If you decide to use this, use it extremely sparingly (Fucking sparingly beginners).

If and when you do decide to use it, make sure you take advantage of the fact that it is, as Loganfive said, "ultimately configureable", or else you are going to sound like the billion other no0bs who have downloaded this free (why everyone and their brother's mother has it) plugin.

yes, very very very very sparing. in fact, just don't fucking use it at all.

Use it like a few times in a track, for like 1 second bursts or something. Otherwise just get lots of VSTs for seperate glitch effects then apply them manually, it's more time consuming but it'll give you a more unique sound.

  BCM said:

in fact, just don't fucking use it at all.

yeah, i wanted to say that, but hey, i figure they'll learn eventually.

  Josso said:

Otherwise just get lots of VSTs for seperate glitch effects then apply them manually, it's more time consuming but it'll give you a more unique sound.

Or you could edit the wav file in cool edit or audacity or something. even more time consuming but even MORE control...

it all depepnds on how you use it.

same with supatrigga and livecut.

  sneaksta303 said:

  BCM said:

in fact, just don't fucking use it at all.

 

yeah, i wanted to say that, but hey, i figure they'll learn eventually.

 

  Josso said:

Otherwise just get lots of VSTs for seperate glitch effects then apply them manually, it's more time consuming but it'll give you a more unique sound.

 

Or you could edit the wav file in cool edit or audacity or something. even more time consuming but even MORE control...

Yeah to be perfectly honest, I had a lot of time on my hands once on a sunday and I made an amen from scratch... just split all the snares, hi-hats and kicks off it - cleaned them up then made a bit of a time track in Audacity. Then I made it manually... it's sounds pretty damn good.

  Josso said:

  sneaksta303 said:

  BCM said:

in fact, just don't fucking use it at all.

 

yeah, i wanted to say that, but hey, i figure they'll learn eventually.

 

  Josso said:

Otherwise just get lots of VSTs for seperate glitch effects then apply them manually, it's more time consuming but it'll give you a more unique sound.

 

Or you could edit the wav file in cool edit or audacity or something. even more time consuming but even MORE control...

 

Yeah to be perfectly honest, I had a lot of time on my hands once on a sunday and I made an amen from scratch... just split all the snares, hi-hats and kicks off it - cleaned them up then made a bit of a time track in Audacity. Then I made it manually... it's sounds pretty damn good.

yup yup!!! Right the fuck on!

  sneaksta303 said:

  Josso said:

  sneaksta303 said:

  BCM said:

in fact, just don't fucking use it at all.

 

yeah, i wanted to say that, but hey, i figure they'll learn eventually.

 

  Josso said:

Otherwise just get lots of VSTs for seperate glitch effects then apply them manually, it's more time consuming but it'll give you a more unique sound.

 

Or you could edit the wav file in cool edit or audacity or something. even more time consuming but even MORE control...

 

Yeah to be perfectly honest, I had a lot of time on my hands once on a sunday and I made an amen from scratch... just split all the snares, hi-hats and kicks off it - cleaned them up then made a bit of a time track in Audacity. Then I made it manually... it's sounds pretty damn good.

 

yup yup!!! Right the fuck on!

exactly, glitchy music is great because its the sculpture of sound, twisting the subject matter cleanly and delicately so it becomes a coherant beautiful beast. using a program like glitch is like getting a randomized chisel to fly at a bit of rock until it creates a lumpy mess, sure it has all the ups and downs of a statue but is it art?

for glitchy music to be coherant, and for that matter for ALL music to be coherant, you need all the sounds to be working together to create a 'whole', if you use glitch in its raw form then to do this you would have to have all elements of your track re-written to match with what glitch is doing in order to make a legible peice of music. and in that sense you are handing over your track entirely to a randomized machine, leaving you with no command over a large area of track.

I think that it CAN be used as an effect if you are effecting bits at a time, rendering them and just using the ones that fit in, but i still think it resigns too much creation to a machine. ie, if used very sparingly it could just about be a part of a good project, but it would still be better if you did it yourself!

as far as I am concerned, there are, and should be no, shortcuts. no easy way out etc if you are serious about the music you make.

^^^ I agree - if you want to do glitch properly the odds are it'll take you a while to learn and it'll take a long time to program the tracks anyway but you'll have peace of mind.

Lol I have recently discovered the wonders of buffer override

word. just something fun to toy with.

dblue can be useful no doubt.... a lot of these things can be done in renoise without sacrificing control

edit: used the dblue glitch for about 5 days now. sick of it. hate it. its a piece of shit.

i might put it on a pad in an intro on a very low mix in its own fx channel.

or just not use it.

"Buy dBlue Glitch Today ...so easy, even noobs can sound like squarepusher"

  acid1 said:

"Buy dBlue Glitch Today ...so easy, even noobs can sound like squarepusher"

yeah...so where are those new squarepushers? beat programming and just a beat fucking with effects are different things.

  acid1 said:

"Buy dBlue Glitch Today ...so easy, even noobs can sound like they are totally electronic music"

FIXT SORRY

  Josso said:

  sneaksta303 said:

  BCM said:

in fact, just don't fucking use it at all.

 

yeah, i wanted to say that, but hey, i figure they'll learn eventually.

 

  Josso said:

Otherwise just get lots of VSTs for seperate glitch effects then apply them manually, it's more time consuming but it'll give you a more unique sound.

 

Or you could edit the wav file in cool edit or audacity or something. even more time consuming but even MORE control...

 

Yeah to be perfectly honest, I had a lot of time on my hands once on a sunday and I made an amen from scratch... just split all the snares, hi-hats and kicks off it - cleaned them up then made a bit of a time track in Audacity. Then I made it manually... it's sounds pretty damn good.

nub

  Cyanescens said:

edit: used the dblue glitch for about 5 days now. sick of it. hate it. its a piece of shit.

i might put it on a pad in an intro on a very low mix in its own fx channel.

or just not use it.

oh yea. the only time i've used this was on a string/pads part, sounded quite nice.

i think i used it cause it has a de-click option so saved time doing exactly what i wanted.

lol, just did a search on tutorials on this, and immediately noticed the pros who use it don't even know how to use it properly, they load 5 or 6 instances depending on how much different patterns they want, instead of using it as an instrument and selecting between the 16 patterns available on it...

• just look at this guy, he found out how to change to a different pattern in glitch but he keeps cloning channels instead of using the different keys on the same piano roll??? going up on the scale with every new cloned channel... wtf???

• then there's this dude who loads 5 or 6 instances depending of how much patterns he wants, using always pattern 1 in each loaded instance:

• and then this valley girl who thinks he's the best glitch producer ever... lol i felt like punching the screen while listening to it, so fucking annoying...

• until i found this guy who actually looks like he knows what he's doing...