sorry

to fill up this forum with my nooby troubleshooting problems any more than i already have done, but ive got a small problem that i couldnt google.

i want to midi up my keyboard, through my interface, with also a drum machine and orbit synth all at once, so that i can switch between the drum machine and the synth easily in my computer, but i cant for shite figure out which way the cables go. my common sense predicted this:

keyboard Out, to In on saffire, out from saffire to in on drum machine, out on drumamachine to thru on synth, out on synth to In on keyboard. but no results

thanks if u can be arsed helping.

presumably the saffire is your midi card?

midi out(synth) to in on midi card

midi in (synth) to midi out on midi card.

midi thru on synth to midi in on drum machine.

set up synth to accept midi thru commands.

midi thru on drum machine to midi in on orbit synth.

(you can do this the other way round if your drum machine doesn't have a thru and your orbit synth does.)

go.

thanks boss. the saffire is the interface yer.

im actually well on the way to making music now, after over a year of pissing about messing with shit i didnt understand.

my first concerto will be finished quite shortly.

wait, is this only going to work if my midi keyboard has thru, because it doesnt. everything else does though.

why not just use the satellite synth as your midi input keyboard then?

or alternatively, get oine of those wee m-audio 4 in 4 out midi interfaces?

arrgghhh i am so fucking annoed, no point styarting yet another new thread though

ableton

warping

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU STOP THAT GODDAMN SHITTING PROGRAM PUTTING ITS OWN MARKERS IN

i swear to god i have changed every single setting i can, every warp setting, every record setting

i just wanna put some goddamn fucking classical loops in without it realigning their entire fucking tempo of its own fucking accord.

if you've already googled for an answer and made a reasonable attempt to work through it yourself, i don't think anyone has any right to bitch you out about stupid questions.

what goddamn shitting program are you speaking of?

ableton. i really do try, so hard, to find answers for myself, but every single fucking thing to do with compuyter music presents about 12 new problems.

all google/ableton help suggests is that you need to turn off 'autowarp'. great. easy peasy. but not when it still fucking puts the markers in no matter what. and then ywhen you manually delete the markers, your left with a piece of music that has been unevenly stretched over a range of about 150 bpm.

well i suck dick at life, all i had to do was click one option on right click. il leave this thread here for tommorow, when i get infuriatingly stuck by yet another stupid one click solution problem.

you're a man now

probably gonna end up killing myself.

today, i opened up cakewalk sonar to 'warning, the following drivers either do not support the current audio format are in use by another application'SaffireProplus'. ok. irritating but i think that because ive just installed ableton its probaly just ableton hogging the interface. go into ableton, disable all use of it using my interface, try again. WARNING. try out cubase, see if i can get it to work through that. thats broke too, registers that the saffire is there, plenty of options for my midi outs and ins, but no sound.

no matter how many options, i change no sound. ive uninstalled ableton, stopped every single process on my computer that isnt a system process, uninstalled cubase, changed all options in cakewalk to see if they work, restarted my pc about 12 times, changed between ASIO and MME or what the fuck they are, reinstalled my drivers, finally i reinstalled cakewalk. nothing.

just out of the blue, im not gonna fucking work any more. but its still running my computer noise fine, winamp and that. ive gone past the point of being annoyed and just assumed that some kind of higher being just does not want me to write fucking music.

any ideas?

get norton ghost.

start again.

get everything stable.

take a ghost of your c drive.

look back with regret, but feel like a wiser man.

why do you need all those different sequencing programs ?

well cakewalk is great for putting large passages of musical work into midi form, the stave function is 12 times better than cubase, putting hundreds of compact notes in cubase fuckin ruins it. but cubase is quick and smooth to use as a sequencer, so i interchange those two as a i compose, and ableton i use because i have to do mixing for college, its also pretty fun to do stuff like record a bunch of flicky show off piano shit in seperate key signatures, then write pieces of music using different texztureed passages organised by the key signature.

but they are currently all styill broken :(

cakewalk is a fucking toy.

except for the midi stave which is what i do about 70 percent of my writing on.

Don't try to run multiple sequencers at once.