Guest TooMuchLush Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 i downloaded puredata recently, considering maxmsp is a continuation of a similar trip. thoughts/ experience? anyone? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLA FUR BIS FLE Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Not a ton of experience with it, But I pick at it occasionally. A friend of mine is into the pdvst function, which he has shared with me for the project we are working on. Makes PD extremely useful, especially if you use a vst compatible interface for song construction or whatever. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide FLA FUR BIS FLE's signature Hide all signatures through the years, a man peoples a space with images of provinces, kingdoms, mountains, bays, ships, islands, fishes, rooms, tools, stars, horses and people. shortly before his death, he discovers that the patient labyrinth of lines traces the image of his own face. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-656840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest psnow Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 i say if you are going to use pd you should probably get max/msp month trial to learn how the program flow works and go on from there. max is way more user friendly and has a lot of documentation. it will show you the method in which you put together stuff. once you run out of the month of maxmsp you can move onto pd with a better understanding. btw in this case most definately do all tutorials!! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-658724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten fingers ten toes Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Say I have a linux machine. Say I have a choice between learning chuck, pd, or supercollider Say I have plenty of programming experience so learning to code some stuff in a new language isn't a daunting idea at all. Does anyone have a recommendation between these three? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ten fingers ten toes's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-659029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 tftt: pd isn't really a programming experience, it's connecting-the-boxes type of interface. but very soon you find yourself using your programming experience to make it do what you want, since the built-in elements are very low-level. i like it, spent many hours playing with it, never made/finished anything serious with it though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-660482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iep Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 supercollider is programmer's heaven, that is, OOP-programmer's heaven. it is very similar to smalltalk and c++, syntax wise (if you are one of those anti-OOP purists it'll frustrate the fuck out of you). you really need OOP experience because the documentation is meager (it spans about 3000 pages, covering only a few percentages of the language). you'll have to snoop around in class definitions and source code. basically it is a lot of low-level effort, blood sweat & tears, plus weeks of code-monging, BUT: it is the most powerful synthesis package you'll come across Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-660662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acid1 Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 pd has some dope graphics capabilities like producing 3d objects from a 2d image. music wise i perfer max msp Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-660984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 iep said: supercollider is programmer's heaven, that is, OOP-programmer's heaven. it is very similar to smalltalk and c++, syntax wise (if you are one of those anti-OOP purists it'll frustrate the fuck out of you). you really need OOP experience because the documentation is meager (it spans about 3000 pages, covering only a few percentages of the language). you'll have to snoop around in class definitions and source code. basically it is a lot of low-level effort, blood sweat & tears, plus weeks of code-monging, BUT: it is the most powerful synthesis package you'll come across that sounds like something i'd really like Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-662793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten fingers ten toes Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Yah it's actually really intuitive when you get looking into it.. if you're a programmer. It's very logically laid out at least for the basic stuff that I've covered in the past few days. I think I've found a language I can love! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ten fingers ten toes's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-663121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten fingers ten toes Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 For anyone interested in Supercollider but using a Windows PC and not OSX or Linux/Unix, there is a free Linux kernel that runs as a Windows service called andLinux that you can run it under! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ten fingers ten toes's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-663728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 plus there's a windows version here: http://sonenvir.at/downloads/sc3/sc3-win/ i think. i have installed it and it makes sound :D Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-663755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten fingers ten toes Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I have heard that the Windows version is not so nice, but I could be mistaken! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ten fingers ten toes's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-663757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wall Bird Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 So, I've been learning CSound for a few weeks now and I'm just curious, for someone with the knowledge and experience, how does it compare to Super Collider? Ideally I'd like to learn both, but if there is a huge advantage to one over the other perhaps I might drop one and learn the other exclusively. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-663854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iep Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 the SC unix version is pretty mature, the windows version not so much. andLinux looks like a pretty good solution for ppl without macs. i've uploaded a SC patch i've been working on HERE. in this patch i have used a couple of GUI widgets that are poorly documented, so maybe you'll find it useful. the sequencers are sort of buggy tho. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-663869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iep Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Wall Bird said: So, I've been learning CSound for a few weeks now and I'm just curious, for someone with the knowledge and experience, how does it compare to Super Collider? Ideally I'd like to learn both, but if there is a huge advantage to one over the other perhaps I might drop one and learn the other exclusively. the key difference is that CSound is not really suited for real time use. at least not as much as SC is. CSound has the advantage that it is much more mature and there are all sorts of nice front-ends like Cecilia. CSound is documented way better than SC. SC syntax is very different, and arguably much clearer and more intuitive. SC community is much more active and the amount of user-made ugen's is rapidly approaching the amount of user-made opcodes. overall, SC's development is going faster than CSound's. CSound is much better for FFT-based techniques, phase vocoding etc, although SC's FFT is improving quickly. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-663882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
salvakkpooo Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 ten fingers ten toes said: For anyone interested in Supercollider but using a Windows PC and not OSX or Linux/Unix, there is a free Linux kernel that runs as a Windows service called andLinux that you can run it under! For the use sc in Windows XP, should i download the KDE version of andLinux? Thanks Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-663917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv_party Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 latest windows version of SC ran only a few times, now it hangs. server comes up, and the post window does, but no code window. forum support is weak for SC and I couldn't even sign up for one. I was advised to use the mailing list. Do you get an email every time someone posts to the mailing list, or is it a once daily or whatever complied thing? I don't want to get 30 emails a day. Anyway I've been messing with pure data. I like it so far and I think the documentation is pretty good. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-665746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten fingers ten toes Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 tv party, try the andLinux link posted above to run a Linux Kernel inside your windows PC and then run SC for linux in there, it's much more stable Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ten fingers ten toes's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-665747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv_party Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 ten fingers ten toes said: tv party, try the andLinux link posted above to run a Linux Kernel inside your windows PC and then run SC for linux in there, it's much more stable Thanks I'm trying that. Can't seem to set up a Samba shared folder in andLinux. I don't understand how it knows where the folder is without a path, unless it needs to be located in the shared documents folder C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents , which I already tried. followed these instructions up to the point of the share folder and it just keeps saying "there is no shared folder with the specified share name" no matter what I try. http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:WBw8t...;cd=2&gl=us Are you running this? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-666787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tv_party Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 nevermind I figured that shit out Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-666795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 (edited) please remove the phrase "rocking it" from your vocabulary there is a TGI Friday's commercial with an announcer who sounds like a total smug douchebag demanding "GIVE ME MORE CHOICES. GIVE ME SMALLER PORTIONS AND PRICES SO I CAN ROCK IT ANY DAY OF THE WEEK" i never liked the phrase to begin with but when i heard that commercial i knew it was totally over so please let it go Edited February 28, 2008 by hahathhat Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-668440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 douchbag 'ey? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-668710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymershapes Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 I'm "rocking" pure data now, I love it... but I'm a beginner. I made a thing that sounds like a fly buzzing around a machine. Post your patches in here everyone. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-1535721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokn Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 How would you compare something like Native Instruments Reaktor to pd/maxmsp? Does it make sense to learn Reaktor or should I directly learn something more "open" and "complex" (?) like pd/maxmsp? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide tokn's signature Hide all signatures Check my dusty tunes and mixes over here: https://soundcloud.com/2kn Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-1535803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 On 3/15/2011 at 3:26 PM, tokn said: How would you compare something like Native Instruments Reaktor to pd/maxmsp? Does it make sense to learn Reaktor or should I directly learn something more "open" and "complex" (?) like pd/maxmsp? it depends on what your goals are. If you want to build your own delays, filters or synths i would say stick with Reaktor. If you want to build something that doesnt exist yet like a spectral inverter filter or something abstract PD/max is the way to go Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/30839-pure-data/#findComment-1536062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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