trying something a little different

my girlfriend doesn't really get the whole electronic music thing. a wonderful, creative, intelligent (and beautiful too!) woman... but she wants to know what INSTRUMENT i play...

i say... i play knobs and buttons and sliders, bend sounds, sequence note progressions and melodies with a keyboard and grid, mix sounds together, eq, process, master, etc... but i'm pretty sure she thinks i just sample the shite out of stuff and mix it together (she always makes a motion like i'm a dj scratching records when i tell her i'm going to make music).

so, i pulled together some of the types of elements she recognizes... spent a couple of hours working with it... but, basically, this is exactly how i make electronic music... so, before spending more time on this and making a further ass out of myself...

what do you make of this? does it sound like electronic music, or band music? is it awful? anything good in there?

sounds v. pleasant, kind of like BoCs of Canada a bit (the melody at least)

sounds a bit like eleccy guitar. The drums don't sound very "real band" though- why not use a sampled break from a rock sampling cd-rom?

perhaps she is just teasing you? (the dj motion makes me think that)

yeah, i sorta assumed that was a guitar. is it?

i think the tune could use something more solid holding it all together. what popped into my head for ideas were:

1. effecting the "guitar" less. maybe keep the sound itself pretty clean and just panning / verbing / delaying / phasing (or whatever) the echos instead of the whole sound.

2. straightening up the main drum beat. adding a more regular hi-hat part or something for example.

3. adding a second drum part. you could probably sneak some soft analoguey drums into the mix like a dr-55 sound for example. you could also be really daring and drop a bassy 4/4 909 kick into there, maybe with some clonky percussion, like a Villalobos-type deal basically.

i think this track is brilliant, really

reminds me of early autechre

i like the electric-guitar-like sound

and the effects on it, and the drums

definitely would like this to be longer

i hope you continue in this style

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what do you make of this? does it sound like electronic music, or band music? is it awful? anything good in there?

this is NOT band music. band music is 4 chords on a guitar, simple coherent 4/4 beat.

but it's it's not really electronic music either, so i'm kind of confused.

actually, this is one of the most electronic music things i have heard here, in the truest sense of the word... i know that kind of negated your efforts, but it's a really good track. it's like the next frontier for electronic music

if you really want to make a band track, make the beat more 4/4 and natural, less quantized, change velocity, get ezdrummer or something. make the bass follow the 4/4 battern.

if you want your girl to like the band track, use the chord progression Am7-F-C-G , as seen in fuck forever, hurt, fix you, etc etc

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my girlfriend doesn't really get the whole electronic music thing. a wonderful, creative, intelligent (and beautiful too!) woman... but she wants to know what INSTRUMENT i play...

 

i say... i play knobs and buttons and sliders, bend sounds, sequence note progressions and melodies with a keyboard and grid, mix sounds together, eq, process, master, etc... but i'm pretty sure she thinks i just sample the shite out of stuff and mix it together (she always makes a motion like i'm a dj scratching records when i tell her i'm going to make music).

 

so, i pulled together some of the types of elements she recognizes... spent a couple of hours working with it... but, basically, this is exactly how i make electronic music... so, before spending more time on this and making a further ass out of myself...

 

what do you make of this? does it sound like electronic music, or band music? is it awful? anything good in there?

this sounds EXACTLY like robot bukkake(i think thats his watmm name) i like the melodies and atmospheres but i cant stand the drums, id say that you should maybe just make some simple loops on some sort of cheesy drum machine and drench it in reverb, or get pretty in depth with velocity and slight pitch and reverb changes and move all your hits slightly out of sync to get a more live feel. this is a cool track, but i dont think its going the direction you want it to, youve probably overworked alot of sounds that dont really sound that "live" or "band"ish to begin with, like the reason guitars youre using. also, take cma's advice.

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my girlfriend doesn't really get the whole electronic music thing.

have you tried using vibert as fuckmusic? :embrassed:

but seriously, i dig your melodies, and i agree with the other posters: it's not rock but not electronic.

has the potential to be something godly; i hope you do more with this.

reminds me a bit of four tet but its more static and the melody sounds very much synthetic

you can try to push it further by starting with a even more natural instrument and then go back into your normal synthetic arrangement at the end. so you will eventually make her understand you music better this way

I love to make music that a person I pick is supposed to like. Its sometimes a great challenge especially when he or she gives a damn about your taste. It makes you develop further

hi all... i really appreciate the feedback on this one. i have spent some more time on this track and attached the result... 1:50 on is all new material and i really like the vibe from that part. a welcome addition to this track? let me know what you think.

cheers!

Awesome guitar and wably percussion. Groovy, sounds like a Spaghetti-Western type of thing that's going on here.

The filter on the drums is distracting though, but I think it's a great way to show someone music made electronically - it has a very basic electronic vibe to it. As in you have you drums, effects, guitar, synths. It sounds really cool.

To get someone into electronic music or electronic music I show them A: Squarepusher's Feed Me Weird Things. B: Eight Frozen Modules' Thought Process Disorder and Abduction of Barry. C: Anything µ-Ziq (Bluff to Bilious) has worked for me. D: Windowlicker, Ventolin.

Those are the things that have worked wonders. Most people are genuinelly intrigued by electronic music (other than four on floor which I hate most of as well so I can relate) so no matter what you show her she'll probably be impressed. But this is a good piece to show her as it kinda floats between acoustic and electronic.

i like this... the guitar is great and as is sporadic bass that comes and goes but like others my only thing was the drums. lose the distracting reverby stuff and just beef them up a bit to match the big sound of the strings. but that's just me and i'm a drums guy

Reminds me kinda of postrock styles ala Labradford etc. Check Labradford's 'A Stable Reference' that truly is a deep ass profound record. Anyways I don't mind this. Could do with some deep distorted pads to underpin it and some interesting fx. I think its pushing it to say this is totally original but certainly fresh for ylc. I have to say I'm not keen on the drums they seem too in your face for the guitars. I'd prefer something less frenetic and muted for drums and a bit more consistency with the guitar and less freeform action but agreed this is a nice sound. Peace.

someone buy this guy a high hat - even the most boring repetitive 1/8th hit as a transitional bridge would really make this track. other than that can't complain about the music, really likey, cept i can see how maybe a cleaner sound as mentioned before would clean this mix up.