Guest Helper ET Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 so im sitting in ableton live right, and i wanna automate the dry/wet of an effect, with an exponenital line, instead of just a straight line, or a bunch of straight lines. this is what i have: this is what i want: does anyone know if this can be done in live, and if not, know of any programs that can do such a thing? thanks! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 fruityloops - yes Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-750518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 isn't that a logarithmic line? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-750598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Helper ET Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 tauboo said: fruityloops - yes i used to use fruity loops 4, and don't remember ever having the ability to create exponential lines of automation. have they updated the automation possibilities in the more recent versions or am i crazy? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-750644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 i only use cubase/cakewalk/ableton sometimes, and this is easy as drawing it on. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-750656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest telikan Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Might just be easiest to record the automation live via midi controller and then go back and make tiny edits. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-750659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 ET said: tauboo said: fruityloops - yes i used to use fruity loops 4, and don't remember ever having the ability to create exponential lines of automation. have they updated the automation possibilities in the more recent versions or am i crazy? well i've never gone beyond fruity loops 4 so... you can. draw with right-click or select the tool. i think it might be different in later versions. has to be drawn though, rather than bending a line. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-750667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 logic has them, and they are very easy to use. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-750775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 non issue. if it doesn't have them you can approximate by adding a bunch of points.. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide foresense's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-750851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vodor Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 forlon said: non issue. if it doesn't have them you can approximate by adding a bunch of points.. indeed. that's what the automation is gonna do with a "real" curve anyhow (though there may be as many points as frames!) no one's gonna hear the difference. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-750867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foresense Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 in the future robots will hear the difference AND JUDGE US ACCORDING!! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide foresense's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-750913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Helper ET Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 im gonna try logic...sighs* all for curvy automation lines. the million tiny little lines thing is dumb and i won't stand for it. the idea is dumb i mean, not the person who had the idea. as the for the drawing tools, you'll ever get a nice good curve that mathematically perfect. there's gotta be a vst that does this.... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-751162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) Edited June 13, 2008 by Super lurker ultra V12 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-751191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vodor Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 lol, mathematic perfection Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-751206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnio Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 get a life! lol couldn't resist... sorry. i mean, c'mon... nothing's perfect; just add some points here and there and voilá! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-751225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wall Bird Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Logic is great for drawing in Automation. One thing I'd really love to see, though, is the ability to save preset automation shapes, kind of like making a dummy clip in Live. It would save a lot of time drawing gestures you use over and over again. Also, I like Absynth's option to sync the automation with the tempo. Come to think of it, Absynth has a pretty unique set of options for drawing lines. A 'randomize automation' feature would be nice, as well. You would simply highlight the time frame you want it to happen, how many points it should utilize, and how wide the dispersal will be. What are some automation features you guys would love to see implemented in your DAW of choice? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-751834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Idrn Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 cmon now guys, this is what midi controllers are for - stop destroying the human element! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-751865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I actually use nothing but automation curves. they sound so loverly Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-751901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tamas Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 There are a lot of things I'm surprised aren't in Ableton Live, besides smoothed curves, but most has to do with automation. For example, I hate how most automation lines are at full by default, so if you want to go up and down you have to edit it first before you set the main variable in the synth. Also, device parameter part, I just don't understand why you can't edit each number by typing in a number, with VSTs that use hz and no tempo sync it's always so annoying to try and get the right number with the stupid slider... Ahh well, I guess it's good that they don't make it too simple for people, otherwise there'd be a lot more garbage electronic music out there than there already is.... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-752011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Helper ET Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Kcinsu said: I actually use nothing but automation curves. they sound so loverly speak up man! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-752119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Wall Bird said: Logic is great for drawing in Automation. One thing I'd really love to see, though, is the ability to save preset automation shapes, kind of like making a dummy clip in Live. It would save a lot of time drawing gestures you use over and over again. Also, I like Absynth's option to sync the automation with the tempo. Come to think of it, Absynth has a pretty unique set of options for drawing lines. A 'randomize automation' feature would be nice, as well. You would simply highlight the time frame you want it to happen, how many points it should utilize, and how wide the dispersal will be. What are some automation features you guys would love to see implemented in your DAW of choice? good point! absynth's envelopes would be the ideal automation, definitely... especially the ability to change the length of a sequence as a whole, in one go. it also lets you type in the values for curves and everything else, for the mathematical perfection everyone here is against Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-752134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Idrn Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 you people have no funk! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-752207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 That's pretty arse if it hasn't got that option. Even Reaper has it (with about 5 different curve types) and that be free. I love my Reaper, though not as much as I love my Buzz. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-752217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enki Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Fuck exponential automation. Gimme bezier curves with those fancy handles on the vertices for crying out loud! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-752285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Idrn Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 oh snap, fuck yeah! i wish i could make all my music in vectors Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/35016-exponential-automation/#findComment-752519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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