Guest Tamas Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 (edited) Recently I saw the remaster of Classics in a record store and I was curious to see if my favourite song on it, Polynomial C, was fixed. There are these really annoying high frequency buzzing sounds throughout some of the song (first noticeable 2 seconds into the song), at about 11500Hz and 17300Hz, here is a screenshot of the frequency analysis: Anyways, I was talking to people in the WATMM IRC channel about it, and out of curiousity I went to see what frequency it was (the one I put up there), so I decided I'd try to remove it. A simple cutoff between 11000Hz and 11800Hz and also between 17000Hz and 17500 removed the sound without destroying the song. Here is a 40 or so second excerpt from the beginning of the song so anyone can compare it with their version if they wish. But yes, cutting between 11000Hz and 11800Hz and also 17000Hz and 17500Hz fixes the problem without impeding the song in any way. polynomialcexcerptfreqfix.mp3 716.73 kB · 89 downloads The thing I don't understand, is why it wasn't fixed in the remaster. It'd be such a simple thing to do, and makes the song 100x better I think. Edited October 12, 2008 by Tamas Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jubes Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 there is a really annoying sound at the very en of fingerbib, it tickles my spine .... really its a weird sensation, if you dont believe me just try it and analyse it the sound is raw data of a video game or something by it sure sounds like hell Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-849743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 i have no idea what you are talking about and the posted sample sounds completely fucked. please ignore this post. i'm just stating an opinion without the intention of entering any discussion whatsoever. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-849759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest griever Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 the high frequencies in "phlange phace" are much more annoying imo... but it's a nice track! and it's an old one by rdj, nobody can produce perfect music right at the beginning. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-849778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barricade Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Meh. Most of his earlier stuff doesn't sound "pretty" production wise. Just like .215061 from AB3, the track has some tape damage. It has its charms I guess. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-849874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 yeah, AB, caustic lindows... not exactly mixes i take to the store to test out new monitors. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-849915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Barricade Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 hahathhat said: yeah, AB, caustic lindows... not exactly mixes i take to the store to test out new monitors. windowlicker would be perfect though... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-849951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bias Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 jubes said: there is a really annoying sound at the very en of fingerbib, it tickles my spine .... you mean the ZX Spectrum program tape sounds all over the album? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-849954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest efex skin Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 precalculated = strong Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-849988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 goDel for mod Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-850083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
enki Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 (edited) Man, I'm amazed that you even picked up on those tones. They're pretty much at the limits of human hearing, both in terms of frequency and loudness. I can't say they bother me, but they do kind of remind me of the sound that old CRTs make. Of course, now that they've been pointed out to me, I'm sure they'll be all I'll hear when I listen to that track. WATMM strikes again. Edited October 12, 2008 by children r r future Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-850113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 You know theres a lot of frequencies in a lot of his tracks. Phlange Phace has an even more noticeable section at the beginning. Not to mention that Dodeccaheedron has a really harsh one at the beginning - which is probably intentional. Could it be that all these frequencies where intentionally added for no reason at all? Metapharsic, Phloam. Its probably one of those "things" that makes the tracks relate. Like a lesser variant of Ventolin. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide boris's signature Hide all signatures Fred McGriff said: i would have launched my penis out of an RPG cannon and fucked her remotely from my car Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-850177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Asterix Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 DAT to DAT bouncing maybe Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-850178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bias Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 boris said: You know theres a lot of frequencies in a lot of his tracks... i suppose they were put there intentionally. you can find a lot of sounds like these in his works. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-850336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AOOproductions Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 i dont hear it sorry... btw, dont fuck with RDJ's music. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-850359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AphexTom9 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 bias said: jubes said: there is a really annoying sound at the very en of fingerbib, it tickles my spine .... you mean the ZX Spectrum program tape sounds all over the album? O RLY? examples plz, you haz my interest. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-850386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Asterix Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 17300Hz = v. approx nyquist frequency of DAT running at 32kHZ (16000Hz in reality, but maybe your turntable is running fast, or something) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-850420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Barricade said: Meh. Most of his earlier stuff doesn't sound "pretty" production wise. Just like .215061 from AB3, the track has some tape damage. It has its charms I guess. That was one of the things that endeared me to that track - I like how it sounds like it's from 1981 or something... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-850488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Is the Remaster worth it ?? .. I own the Original release .. and i don't know if the Remaster Version is worth Buying .. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Boxing Day's signature Hide all signatures I HOPE THIS MATCH NEVER ENDS - Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-1200365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 can't hear it Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-1200370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Somethin Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) my hearing must be bad now im depressed. thanks wait: I only have an mp3 copy. maybe i need it lossless to recognize it. eta: ok now i hear it! Edited December 30, 2009 by Somethin Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-1200381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascdi Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I just threw on my copy of the song and I must say, I don't really hear it either. It's just an Apple Lossless file playing out my iPod into some Bose (derp) headphones though, so maybe that's why. It sounds like there's a good amount of hiss/tape crunch/whatever to the tune though (noticeable to me most the first time the initial arp drops out, for example), so maybe that's the source of the noise. Thanks for posting this; I've never really listened to this song this closely before. I also feel like sometimes I've had issues with "non-naturally-occurring" sounds like this REALLY fucking with bright, somewhat primitive reverb algorithms. I'm sure the fairly un-damped long reverb in this tune is not helping with the ringing supersonic frequencies issue. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-1200382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Somethin Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 also, sound is more "directional" the higher the frequency, so I had to turn my head until i could hear it. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-1200387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidphakist Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I'm in the same boat as the guy with tinnitus. I can't hear it apart from my normal background wheeeeeeeeeeeeeen. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide acidphakist's signature Hide all signatures music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-1200393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnesia Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 the year 2000 on aphex phans are such twats and have no idea about how street the early recordings were all about. get a life or listen to lady gaga Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide amnesia's signature Hide all signatures http://www.vicmod.net/catalog.html http://www.vicmod.net/ https://www.youtube.com/user/cray56 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/38844-the-annoying-frequencies-in-polynomial-c/#findComment-1200433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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