midi/audio between mac and virtual xp boot (in vmware fusion)

so, can this be done? today i boot camped a 5gb partition running tinyxp on my new macbook, am am now using fusion to run it as a virtual machine inside leopard. the main reason for this is that there isnt really a *reliable* version of ableton for mac, and whilst i aim to now use logic/reason for production, i would still like to use it for playing live.

given the restrictions of the 5gb partition, it would both be impossible and ridiculous to install the same sort of plugins as i have in logic, but specifically for the occasional use of ableton. the ideal situation then is to be able to fire off midi to reason and logic but also send/receive audio into various channels. this way i can do the heavy meat and bones of my live set on the mac (sends/buses/synthesizer playing) but implement the core functionality of ableton.

i know midi can be sent over a network easily on mac, but is it neccesairy, let alone possible to do this on a mac/virtual xp setup? and what about the audio?

fuck knows mate. ableton runs just fine for me - never heard of it being unreliable on a mac before...if anything i would say it would be more stable as it's running on OSX and therefore the whole system is less likely to crash... fuck messing about trying to run it on XP inside OSX though - surely that's much more likely to induce problems than just running it straight on OSX? and fuck all that Windows shit too - you've got a mac now - embrace it.

but it's true there is no Live 7 for Mac on Piratebay.

still, that virtual machine thing is crap for anything other than using MSPaint or Wordpad because you have very limited RAM and graphics support... i'd guess even a basic midi setup won't run reliably (timing wise?) VMware stuff just isn't built for heavvy shit like that.

so yeah, what BCM said: embrace your Mac!

apaprantly, at some point (dont know when, dont know where), a copy of ableton for mac will always fuck out. thats of course unless you religiously run programs like little snitch (a firewall which checks outgoing, not incoming connections). most mac users i know have had the ableton nightmare, even after years of using it - one guy had it the day before a show etc etc. apparantly its totally random when it happens but just does eventually, and can only be fixed via a reinstall of the os or not letting it happen in the first place. and yeah, as plangplang said - theres no ableton 7 *out* for mac yet either (and sidechaining is wicked).

on the whole 'embrace' mac thing though - trust, i am! but there are also some things i need / would like, like being able to test designs on IE/windows and... 4od.

Then just run XP without a virtual machine...

Though personally if the music software I use was so annoying to use I'd just scrap it. It must mean that you should make music in Logic... If you ever do want to make music to play live it'd probably be more worth it to get a netbook and transfer the rendered tracks from Logic to the netbook and running Ableton Live off that.

Or if this whole issue truly does arise just because it's pirated, get a few friends together to buy Ableton. They give you at least two keys to use for the license, I have some friends who have bought it just because of that reason, and well, it does feel better to know when your version wasn't fucked with!

i don't think you understand what i was saying or what im attempting to do. i can run XP without a virtual machine, by booting up windows when i turn on the machine. if i have a virtual machine then i have access to two computers (although the UI intergration makes it still feel like one). the latency seems ok, the specs are good - so conceivably i can set up a audio/midi network and have shit shooting around in an epic concoction. logic buses warping channels from reason and ableton, and then feeding them back into it; not to mention the combination of mac and windows specific synthesizers working in unison. the best bit would be that i could more easily hook up two wii controllers rather than the one.

actually, fuck that. ill play some wavs off a seperate netbook.

I've never had any problems running Ableton.

  Idrn said:

i don't think you understand what i was saying or what im attempting to do. i can run XP without a virtual machine, by booting up windows when i turn on the machine. if i have a virtual machine then i have access to two computers (although the UI intergration makes it still feel like one). the latency seems ok, the specs are good - so conceivably i can set up a audio/midi network and have shit shooting around in an epic concoction. logic buses warping channels from reason and ableton, and then feeding them back into it; not to mention the combination of mac and windows specific synthesizers working in unison. the best bit would be that i could more easily hook up two wii controllers rather than the one.

 

actually, fuck that. ill play some wavs off a seperate netbook.

i don't understand the point or advantage of doing this at all....plus if you're worried it might crash at a critical moment, surely running this kind of setup is much more unstable...i think you're being needlessly complicated...just install ableton mate - what's the problem here?