bad lieutenant

just watched this again. what a powerful movie. as good as scorsese at the height of his powers. harvey keitel as the bad lieutenant is truly moving. an amazing film thats well written and directed.

what do you guys think about it being remade with nic cage and werner herzog? i have mixed feelings to say the very least, and werner herzog is one of my favorite directors.

for those of you that have no idea what im talking about: see bad lieutenant.

someone make me feel better about this

abel ferrera is a junkie cunt.

Weird thing is that... Herzog has not seen the original movie and doesn't want to see it. It would be funny if it turned exactly the same as the original :)

whether abel ferrera is a junkie or not is irrelevant

maybe its better that he doesnt see the original.

the original script by zoe lund is a masterpiece

im bumping this cause i know more of you fuckers have seen this

Just put this on my rental queue.

Get back to ya'

Only 74% on RT. This best be as good as you say or balls will be eviscerated.

One of only two movies I have walked out on. The other was Requiem for a Dream.

While seeing Keitel wander around naked, cook up drugs, and do the patented "Keitel moan" was amusing for a bit, the nun rape crossed the line for me and made the whole thing feel too vulgar and voyeuristic with no redeeming elements.

I was a first year undergrad at the time, might feel differently now.

See I liked Requiem For A Dream. What made you walk out?

just seemed too black and white "drugs are bad mmmmkay" for my tastes. And this is coming from a guy who spent about 4 yrs recovering from a drug overdose. I don't know, I might feel differently now, but it just felt like Aronofsky didn't have much to say.

I got pretty far in, when the boyfriend dies (?) from the gaping sores on his arms, and Ellen Burstyn is taken into the psych ward or wherever gnashing and raving...that was when I called it quits. Think that was pretty close to the climactic "ass to ass" bit, which I thought might have been a bit redeeming when I saw it online many years later.

Yeah man, thats minutes away from the end. The end made me sob like a bitch. I agree with what you said about drugs but I liked the cinematography and editing and that shadowed the weak morals of the film.

The ass to ass bit is shit.

I don't feel many films get drug use right. The temptation is just too great to sensationalize.

Nicolas Cage?

errrrrghh....... bleerrrrrraaaaaaghhhhhh h h h

just watched this tonight due to this thread and i loved it

keitel is a fucking badass

he's such a BAD lieutenant

Whatever else I may think about it, the wanking on the side of the car scene is fantastic.

great film.

the remake will inevitably suck balls.

Saw this film at cinema when it came out, absolutely loved it.

One of the few films i've seen where people have walked out.

Remake idea is ridiculous (especially if you're casting Nic fucking Cage in the lead role!).

Strange that someone as esteemed as Herzog is involved (and hiring Nic Fucking Cage for the lead role!!!).

I also loved Requiem For A Dream, wtf is wrong with you people?!

i loved this movie when i was in high school because at the time it was very shocking to me.

i find it a lot less edgy now but i still think its a good movie & harvey kietel is great in it.

my favorite part is when he stops the 2 ladies.

FUCKING FUCK FUCKING NICHOLAS FUCKING CAGE. HE'S FUCKING SHIT.

Bad Lieutenant is an awesome film that doesn't need touching. My joint favourite Harvey Keitel performance along with Taxi Driver and Mean Streets. But has anyone seen the earlier version (I think) of the film that had Schooly D on the soundtrack? I had a pirate VHS of that version not long after it was released, but when I got the DVD a few years later (which I think was advertised as uncut, it was region 2) Schooly D had been removed and the film was edited a bit. It was still an awesome film though. Wanking scene and the scene where Keitel kidnaps the perpetrators towards the end I think are incredible.

Maybe Ferrara's best? Although Driller Killer remains one of my personal favourites. The remake will surely be some crazy shit.

  Caretstik said:

But has anyone seen the earlier version (I think) of the film that had Schooly D on the soundtrack?

i heard about this. didnt they remove it because it was played during the rape scene or something?

  Z_B_Z said:

  Caretstik said:

But has anyone seen the earlier version (I think) of the film that had Schooly D on the soundtrack?

 

i heard about this. didnt they remove it because it was played during the rape scene or something?

Yeah, I think you may be right there.

folks talk about the remake

herzog on the remake (some lols in there)

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Seeing how much fun we had grilling John Cusack last week, we decided one impromptu, inquisitive turn deserves another. Then, through some minor miracle/apparent PR botch, we found ourselves sitting across from Werner Herzog talking about his new documentary about life in Antarctica, Encounters at the End of the World. We'll get to that as its release date approaches later this month, but for the moment, we're still wondering how hard our legs were just pulled as Herzog told us all about his mad vision for remaking continuing (or something) Abel Ferrara's 1992 cult classic Bad Lieutenant.

 

It only looks like more than our standard Five Questions after the jump, but with Herzog jumping on our dropped jaws on more than one occasion, we admit we lost count.

 

So, yes or no: Is Bad Lieutenant a project you're working on with Nicolas Cage?

 

Yes, but its not a remake. It's like, for example, you wouldn't call a new James Bond movie a remake of the previous one — although the name of the bad lieutenant is a different one, and the story is completely different. It's very interesting because Nicolas Cage really wants to work with me, and just anticipating working with an actor of his caliber is just wonderful.

 

Why this project, though? You could have worked on anything.

 

There's an interesting screenplay; it's a very, very dark story. It's great because it seems to reflect a side of the collective psyche — sometimes there are just good times for film noir. They don't come out of nowhere. There was some sort of a mysterious context with the understanding of people in that particular time. And it's going to be in New Orleans, which is a fascinating place. Part of it was the decision of the producers for tax incentives — which is totally legitimate. However, I thought to myself: "We have seen a lot of New York in movies; we have not seen New Orleans in feature films." Or very few feature films. After Katrina it's a particularly interesting set-up. The neglect and politics after the hurricane struck are something quite amazing. It has to do with public morality.

 

Speaking of which, the original film's director, Abel Ferrara, has vowed to fight this project, and —

 

Wonderful, yes! Let him fight! He thinks I'm doing a remake.

 

Have you talked to him?

 

No. I have no idea who Abel Ferrara is. But let him fight the windmills, like Don Quixote.

 

Have you heard his comments at all? He says he hopes "these people die in Hell."

 

That's beautiful!

 

Do you relate to that passion?

 

No, because it's like theater thunder. It's like being backstage in the 19th century, with the machines that make thunder. It has nothing do with with his film. But let him rave and rant; it's good music in the background.

 

You did a remake before with Nosferatu, but —

 

It was not so much a remake as an homage to Murnau. But I don't feel like doing an homage to Abel Ferrara because I don't know what he did — I've never seen a film by him. I have no idea who he is. Is he Italian? Is he French? Who is he?

 

Oh, come on.

 

Maybe I could invite him to act in a movie! Except I don't know what he looks like.

  Caretstik said:

  Z_B_Z said:

  Caretstik said:

But has anyone seen the earlier version (I think) of the film that had Schooly D on the soundtrack?

 

i heard about this. didnt they remove it because it was played during the rape scene or something?

Yeah, I think you may be right there.

It was played during the end credits and removed because of an uncleared Led Zeppelin sample...