oyster Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 I know that you are meant to always start your melody on the root note of your key. On the other hand you are also meant to start your melody with the bass note of the chord beneath it. So say I am composing in C major, and my I chord, C, is in 1st inversion. Should I start on C, or E ? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oyster's signature Hide all signatures I'M SORRY FOR BEING ME I CAN'T HELP THE WAY I AM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 C i guess cus is the root note of the chord not E, but whatdoiknow. also do whatever sounds better/interesting, those aren't real rules. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide GORDO's signature Hide all signatures ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyster Posted December 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 I know I'm just speaking theoretically Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oyster's signature Hide all signatures I'M SORRY FOR BEING ME I CAN'T HELP THE WAY I AM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 lol who the fuck cares, do what sounds best to your ears, not what sounds good when explained in words. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 theres no harmonic rule stating what note your melody needs to start on. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 messiaen said: theres no harmonic rule stating what note your melody needs to start on. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide GORDO's signature Hide all signatures ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 messiaen said: theres no harmonic rule stating what note your melody needs to start on. Truth. Also no rhythmic rule as to what beat you should start on. Lately I've been starting on the 5th or 6th of a scale and on the 'and' of two or on two. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jubes Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 yeah music that comes from the heart does not always have to rely on mathematical laws bitch Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 the bigger question, is after playing the first note of the melody, where does it go? But really... unless this is for a class or something, don't fret... just use your ear. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyster Posted December 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 The Pod said: I know I'm just speaking theoretically The Pod said: I know I'm just speaking theoretically The Pod said: I know I'm just speaking theoretically The Pod said: I know I'm just speaking theoretically Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oyster's signature Hide all signatures I'M SORRY FOR BEING ME I CAN'T HELP THE WAY I AM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Theoretically you can start anywhere you fucking want to. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyster Posted December 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 okay Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oyster's signature Hide all signatures I'M SORRY FOR BEING ME I CAN'T HELP THE WAY I AM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 yeah we're basically saying you suck man. fuck off. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 The Pod said: I know that you are meant to always start your melody on the root note of your key. On the other hand you are also meant to start your melody with the bass note of the chord beneath it. So say I am composing in C major, and my I chord, C, is in 1st inversion. Should I start on C, or E ? easy peasy, start on the 9th of a diminished f#m13 ..you're not meant to start it anywhere in particular, theoretically speaking. however you may resolve it into different intervals or substitutions depending on what kind of harmony you want it usually only sounds wrong if you don't resolve it well, you can get away with virtually anything as long as you resolve it in whichever way suits your piece.. but it's not necessary to get away with stuff generally extended chords are effective colorations, even if they're discordant, since they carry more harmonic information than a simple triad or monophonic melody, and and thus resolve easier.. again it shouldn't be a rule of thumb to have to do that either, go flush some atonal stuff out your system and come back to this thread and you'll realize how pointless it is to think about music this way it's like asking whether you should use yellow paint with only blue or red Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyster Posted December 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Glass Plate said: yeah we're basically saying you suck man. fuck off. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oyster's signature Hide all signatures I'M SORRY FOR BEING ME I CAN'T HELP THE WAY I AM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-903525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A/D Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 (edited) if you're going for a baroque or classical-period style, i would say either C or G. edit: melody on the same note as your bassline is actually pretty discouraged, for the last few hundred years in 'classical-style' music. well, moreso if one follows the other. Edited December 25, 2008 by A/D Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-906433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 love will tear us apart Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-910917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 you guys... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-910926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnio Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-911197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 The Pod said: I know that you are meant to always start your melody on the root note of your key. On the other hand you are also meant to start your melody with the bass note of the chord beneath it. So say I am composing in C major, and my I chord, C, is in 1st inversion. Should I start on C, or E ? what the hell are you talking about? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-911414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autopilot Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 This is the first time I've ever heard a melody should start on something. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/40915-composing-melodies-over-chords-in-inversion/#findComment-911485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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