looking for a softsynth...

so i wanna take a quick sample of a piano key being struck or anything, and use the sound for the waveform in my oscillators. i know there are synths that can do this i just dont know which ones...

thanks

Crystal VST can do it I think

Loads of them can... how about Absynth?

  BCM said:

Crystal VST can do it I think

thats weird, i just downloaded this a few days ago... I shall try and report back!

  kakapo said:

Loads of them can... how about Absynth?

downloading now...ill report back about this too

thanks guys...keep em comin!

anyone have much experience with this? what the best synth to do this with and why?

with Crystal VST you have to first load in the sample as a sound font then convert that to the waveform...something like that anyway.... instructions on line somewhere....Google it mate...sorry for not being very specific

A good software sampler will allow u to do that that. I used to use halion when it first came out to do that .

Edit: one that has envelopes, and filters etc. i think kontakt does it

i fucking hate kontakt and absolutely refuse to use it. halion any better?

  ET said:

i fucking hate kontakt and absolutely refuse to use it. halion any better?

you really miss something kontakt is a battleship of sampler

halion sucks balls

kontakt is excellent

sampler is the best

imho

hey ET

if you're serious about this, try reading this:

http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques.htm

it's from the dude who created MaxMSP and also PureData and explains in detail how digital audio processing works.

I said try, because myself i couldn't make it past the first two chapters out of laziness. But it's been quite a good read so far.

A synthesizer which uses a sample as waveform is simple and is explained in chapter one or two.

vaz modular can (granular and straight sample based osc) (and is the best sounding soft synth ever made to boot)

virsyn cube

buffersynth is nice for using background sounds

not really waveform base though

don't you use ableton et? you could just do this in the simpler/sampler though it depends what other kinds of modulations you want to do to it.

  epsy said:

vaz modular can (granular and straight sample based osc) (and is the best sounding soft synth ever made to boot)

I was thinking about getting this synth but the Arturia Moog Modular is a hundered dollars less. I think that extra hundred dollars that goes into the vaz modular may be for the mixer and the vst support, can't you sequence like 16 things/channels/sounds on it (I guess this is what the mixer is for)? I would get the vaz synth but the Arturia Moog Modular looks a bit more solid plus I don't need vst support and a mixer embedded into my synth. But I'd like to hear why you think the vaz modular is better than the Arturia Moog Modular, does it just sound better?

sound is far superior. arturia actually uses the exact same dsp across a number of synths they make. I believe sound on sound called them out in an article for this. Download the demos for vaz and arturia and it should be real obvious. Vaz has such nasty filters that when routed correctly rival my fuckin sherman filterbank.

  epsy said:

vaz modular can (granular and straight sample based osc) (and is the best sounding soft synth ever made to boot)

have to 2nd this, im glad most of the analogue fanboys havent discovered this monster.

and yes it blows out of the water Arturia moog modular. I mean thats emulating a moog modular right? So if you want to be stuck in the moog modular paradigm by my guest. Vaz is a totally open ended modular synth like Reaktor is and has sampling features, digital effects processing like customizable flangers, phasors.

i want to get into that complex modular stuff but i dont even know where to begin learning...are there any websites out there that explain it simply from the ground up?

Knowing the logic behind what you're doing is obviously helpful instead of just randomly connecting wires hoping you don't accidently set off some feedback loop that blows your monitors out. Although I think learning things completely 100% kinda ruins the magic for me personally in a way. If I knew EXACTLY how turning a knob would affect the sound it would kinda ruin it for me to some extent.

  ET said:

so i wanna take a quick sample of a piano key being struck or anything, and use the sound for the waveform in my oscillators. i know there are synths that can do this i just dont know which ones...

 

thanks

p.s. check out this

http://www.vintagesynth.com/sci/pvs.shtml

first synth i got with analog anything

loading new waveforms is a cockass though