karmakramer Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 I understand that Drukqs was some sort of contract breaker or something, but is there any articles on the specifics of this? Does anyone know exactly what happened behind the scenes? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 i'm sure someone does, but i don't. all you're going to get around here is shenanigans. they're coming out tonight on tha afx 4rum!~ Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Yeah... I thought it might have been worth a shot... guess not. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 there's just too much disinformation, after a while you run with it... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 don't know the real deal, but i'm sure it's as simple as that the original contract was for an x amount of albums, and after having made x albums richie didn't feel for a new contract and instead focussed on his own business (rephlex, men records etc). in other words - there's probably not a real story, but if anybody's got a better version with some extra drama, i'd like to hear that as well Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Whoever scores the next interview with Richard better not be like those two fucking dimwits in Russia who asked Richard why he had long hair. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 indeed, a better question would be why he currently has short hair Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Boring serious answer for the n00bs. Before 26 Mixes came out there were rumours on internet that it was the last album he was contracted to Warp for, and that there was no new contract. The lack of anything further on Warp seems to add a bit of weight to the rumours. RDJ hasnt said anything because he's ooo mysterious guy. Warp haven't said anything because he's easily their biggest selling artist and it wouldnt be a good look. They have even plugged the crap out of Analord and Tuss on Rephlex and put out the AFX / LFO split. Even if the split wasn't amicable, it's in Warp's interest to act like it was. Rich had been saying for years that he wanted to stop releasing music and just make music for himself. Obviously, he's too much of an attention whore for that, but he's doing it on his own label now, on his own terms, not with deadlines and contracts and promotional commitments and shit. The rumour that Warp has some kind of exclusivity on the name "Aphex Twin" has been around for years. Rich used the name on Rehplex to get attention for Analord 10, but he might have had to get permission from Warp as a one-off or something. I personally dont think there will ever be another (new) release under the name UNLESS there's like a compilation of new/obscure artists on Rephlex and it also has "first Aphex Twin track in x years" as a publicity gimmick. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Synthacat 9 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 whoever says this album sucks is a liar Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 analogue wings said: Boring serious answer for the n00bs. Before 26 Mixes came out there were rumours on internet that it was the last album he was contracted to Warp for, and that there was no new contract. The lack of anything further on Warp seems to add a bit of weight to the rumours. RDJ hasnt said anything because he's ooo mysterious guy. Warp haven't said anything because he's easily their biggest selling artist and it wouldnt be a good look. They have even plugged the crap out of Analord and Tuss on Rephlex and put out the AFX / LFO split. Even if the split wasn't amicable, it's in Warp's interest to act like it was. Rich had been saying for years that he wanted to stop releasing music and just make music for himself. Obviously, he's too much of an attention whore for that, but he's doing it on his own label now, on his own terms, not with deadlines and contracts and promotional commitments and shit. The rumour that Warp has some kind of exclusivity on the name "Aphex Twin" has been around for years. Rich used the name on Rehplex to get attention for Analord 10, but he might have had to get permission from Warp as a one-off or something. I personally dont think there will ever be another (new) release under the name UNLESS there's like a compilation of new/obscure artists on Rephlex and it also has "first Aphex Twin track in x years" as a publicity gimmick. So because he has no deadlines, do you think we will see fewer releases but perhaps with more content... i.e. Analord? I fear because he has kids now, he just doesn't have the time anymore to dedicate himself to producing "albums" in the typical sense and will only rarely just release EP's or something. btw... who the fuck is his wife? Karen Tregaskin? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 bringing up kids costs money. and how do you think he'd make money? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Betty Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 analogue wings said: The rumour that Warp has some kind of exclusivity on the name "Aphex Twin" has been around for years. Rich used the name on Rehplex to get attention for Analord 10, but he might have had to get permission from Warp as a one-off or something. I personally dont think there will ever be another (new) release under the name UNLESS there's like a compilation of new/obscure artists on Rephlex and it also has "first Aphex Twin track in x years" as a publicity gimmick. I heard somewhere that as a recording artist you are able to make 'guest' appearances on other labels with your band/artist name for compilations and the like but there is a limit. I think it's 2 songs or it could even be percentage based like 15% of the total running time or something. I think Richard was exploiting (or flaunting) this loophole by appearing as Aphex Twin on the Analord series. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 26 mixers for thrash Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 I very much doubt Richard wants to stop releasing music and just make it for himself as he could have done that long ago. Someone told me that Richard was asked about the situation between Warp and himself in some interview and his answer was "you don't want to know". Does anyone know if Warp is involved with Warner Bros? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 soundwave said: Someone told me that Richard was asked about the situation between Warp and himself in some interview and his answer was "you don't want to know". sounds to me like the source of that is an interview where richard was asked about it. his response was something like, "you dont want to know man it's bad" Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest esquimaw Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Everything Richard releases is published by Chrysalis. He still has a contract with them as far as I know. So no matter what label he's on.. It's still Chrysalis. These guys collect his royalties every time a track of his is used on a documentary/advert whatever. Of the two founders of Warp, one sadly died a couple of years back. I get the feeling that he was the one that Richard got on with the best? Plus, check the quality of warp since then. How many albums did he do with Warp? 5 full ones, a remix one, and a couple of EPs. A 5 album deal is fairly normal in the industry. If his contract is over with Warp, that would explain why he was able to use the Aphex Twin name for the Analord Series. Rephlex is Richard's vanity label.. Pretty much no artists on it are profitable - except anything put out by Aphex. Hence, a flurry of small releases to boost the label's coffers to keep it running. I would not expect another album out on Warp any time, ever. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesomeperson Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 hahathhat said: 26 mixers for thrash Lol, at least it came with chocolate coins. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeez Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 hahathhat said: soundwave said: Someone told me that Richard was asked about the situation between Warp and himself in some interview and his answer was "you don't want to know". sounds to me like the source of that is an interview where richard was asked about it. his response was something like, "you dont want to know man it's bad" I read that interview, the tone came across as sarcastic. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thief Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 hasnt joyrex said that in no way warp "own" the aphex twin name = richie can do with it as he pleases? also yea about one of the main WARP guys passing away, i think i remember reading an interview with aphex and he was saying stuff like how he knew everyone at warp, got on well with them, then that all changed or something bleh Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Betty Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 esquimaw said: Everything Richard releases is published by Chrysalis. He still has a contract with them as far as I know. So no matter what label he's on.. It's still Chrysalis. These guys collect his royalties every time a track of his is used on a documentary/advert whatever. I thought Chrysalis was just Richard himself, or am I mistaken? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 errr no chrysalis is a massive company Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylonbitch Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 it's very rare/unheard-of for a record label to own the name of an artist. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide pylonbitch's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesomeperson Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Didn't that happen with Prince? :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 esquimaw said: Everything Richard releases is published by Chrysalis. He still has a contract with them as far as I know. So no matter what label he's on.. It's still Chrysalis. These guys collect his royalties every time a track of his is used on a documentary/advert whatever. A publishing company handles your rights as a songwriter, paying you when music written by you is played on radio or tv, covered by someone else, or used in a movie, ad, game etc. A record company looks after (and often owns) your recordings, paying you a cut of the sales. They've always been two totally separate things in the music biz. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 analogue wings said: esquimaw said: Everything Richard releases is published by Chrysalis. He still has a contract with them as far as I know. So no matter what label he's on.. It's still Chrysalis. These guys collect his royalties every time a track of his is used on a documentary/advert whatever. A publishing company handles your rights as a songwriter, paying you when music written by you is played on radio or tv, covered by someone else, or used in a movie, ad, game etc. A record company looks after (and often owns) your recordings, paying you a cut of the sales. They've always been two totally separate things in the music biz. i'd never heard of that. man i'm never gonna make any $$ with this am i Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/41090-whats-the-story-with-warp-and-richard/#findComment-907971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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