Guest Panoptimist Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Even using VST's with sidechain compatibility there's no way to select the sidechain source signal from the dropdown menu..... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 that's still easier than it is in cubase. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-944977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panoptimist Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Not being able to do it at all? Manually automating each duck? Please...this shit is fucking GAY. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-945188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 no, there are two ways to do it in cubase sx: 1) some crazy shit with busting it out to a quadra channel and using panning 2) plugins that sidechain for you my favorite compressor has a 2-slot sidechain. that's all i ever really use, and i don't even do that much. but, i don't think i have the latest version. they might have come to their senses and fixed it by now. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-945192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panoptimist Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Yeah, using sonalksis. Get this bullshit (you might be able to explain why): Sidechaining doesn't work with mk2 in live UNLESS you use the AU version instead of the VST...what gives there? Yeah, using sonalksis. Get this bullshit (you might be able to explain why): Sidechaining doesn't work with mk2 in live UNLESS you use the AU version instead of the VST...what gives there? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-945195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) perhaps there are technical limitations in the VST specifications that hinder sidechaining. that'd explain a few things. i downloaded the VST C++ SDK ages ago and wrote some fuckoff delay plugin. my memory is very vague at this point, but IIRC, there was a main duty function that was responsible for processing the audio on a sample-by-sample basis. you get passed a pointer to a chunk of memory containing a sample or two, you do whatever to it, then return pointer to modified samples. separate, similar functions handled automation and interface. your main duty function would ask the interface, hey where my knobs at?? the audio processing itself was all in that one function. sidechaining would have to be passed to that somehow, as there wasn't really any way to just kind of asynchronously do audio shit outside of it, no way to interface with busses, talk to other plugins... you'd have to code it into the plugin special, like my compresser pluggo. when's the next VST spec due out?? Edited February 7, 2009 by hahathhat Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-945198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panoptimist Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Sure would. Well, off to get a 1/8 to dual 1/4 converter and start fucking around with this... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-945201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 end sum, solution is to buy an analog mixer + compressor Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-945209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panoptimist Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 hahathhat said: end sum, solution is to buy an analog mixer + compressor Years down the road from now. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-945248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegecow Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 just use the ableton compressor with built in sidechain Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Siegecow's signature Hide all signatures On 3/16/2011 at 8:14 PM, troon said: fuck off! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-945401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Helper ET Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 yeah do that Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-945412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panoptimist Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) Built-in sidechaining? Live 6? Edited February 8, 2009 by Panoptimist Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-945978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Or realize that sidechaining is mostly useless Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-948970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 it's wayyy overused Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-948975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegecow Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) Panoptimist said: Built-in sidechaining? Live 6? does your compressor/auto filter when expanded look like this? if not you're probably gonna want to upgrade also, sidechaining, like most all audio effects, is extremely versatile if you've got the creativity. Edited February 11, 2009 by 42Orange Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Siegecow's signature Hide all signatures On 3/16/2011 at 8:14 PM, troon said: fuck off! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-948987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Helper ET Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Bubba69 said: Or realize that sidechaining is mostly useless why? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-949043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Bubba69 said: Or realize that sidechaining is mostly useless JohnTqs said: it's wayyy overused ET said: Bubba69 said: Or realize that sidechaining is mostly useless why? volume fader automation ftw. garnish with (cross)fades and gain adjustments. serves two ears and one ass. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-949508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Haha, I remember posting that yeah. Its not actually useless, its just way to tedious for me and I can't think of anything I would want to use it for. I just think it is weird how everybody wants to use it for making a pumping house sound yet that sound is so easily achievable with a regular compressor. It is kind of cool though, just for triggering dynamic changes in one track with, for example a hi-hat or something. Useful for rythmic effects. But its not really in my style of music in general though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-951263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Bubba69 said: Haha, I remember posting that yeah. Its not actually useless, its just way to tedious for me and I can't think of anything I would want to use it for. I just think it is weird how everybody wants to use it for making a pumping house sound yet that sound is so easily achievable with a regular compressor. It is kind of cool though, just for triggering dynamic changes in one track with, for example a hi-hat or something. Useful for rythmic effects. But its not really in my style of music in general though. i do a lot of volume automation, mix down to 4 or so busses, compress the lot carefully... if i sidechain, it is because i'm bored, i'm fucking around with plugins and seeing what noise i can get out of it. it's like a flanger or a phaser -- puts a certain spin on a sound. similarly, like a flanger and phaser, the real fun is saying, "what happens if i plug this into that?" just another toy in the bin. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-951286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 really its mostly important when you are filtering the input signal. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-952089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 ever have something pointy make something blurry duck? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-952679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepex Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 You can sidechain in Live 7. Get that. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures On 4/11/2010 at 6:25 AM, 'Rambo' said: I enjoy the fragility of the rolling lol tbh. The broken lol is like our own mortality staring us in the face, reminding us to enjoy that sunset. d v dp ck: s n d c l d | b n d c m p | f c b k | t m b l r | t w t t r | l s t . f m Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-954045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 how can i load this live 7 into cubase plz Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-954071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pantsonmyhead Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 hahathhat said: how can i load this live 7 into cubase plz you can sidechain in cubase bro Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-954107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 you can sidechain in just about anything, probably nearly everything Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/42403-whats-up-with-live-6-and-sidechaining/#findComment-954109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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