mexico's largest drug cartels join forces

the war on drugs...great success

100,000 sounds wildly exaggerated to me.

  xxx said:

Aye carumba! how do you like that? U.S. is shitting their pants over Mexico more than Iraq and Afghanistan. I've been nervouse about Mexico ever since those beheadings started. I wonder how the college kiddies are gonna fair when they head South to party?

most of the violence is concentrated in a few areas, spring breakers don't go partying there.

  GORDO said:

100,000 sounds wildly exaggerated to me.

Its true old Icurumba rang up Obama to give him the heads up, cos he counted them himself.

who?

Yes, so now, we, the United States, must pass gun ban legislation so we can stop them.

If we stop Americans from owning guns, we will crush the Mexican drug cartels!

:undecided:

well maybe just ban AK-47s and grenades.

  EDGEY said:

Yes, so now, we, the United States, must pass gun ban legislation so we can stop them.

If we stop Americans from owning guns, we will crush the Mexican drug cartels!

:undecided:

What does that have to do with anything?

Is our armed civillian populace effectively stopping them right now?

americans should really be concerned about this, these people can corrupt anything.

or legalizing drugs.

also it's not a matter of having an effective armed fore against it, it just doesn't work.

colombia tried, didn't work. it's a matter of gathering and using intelligence.

  GORDO said:

or legalizing drugs.

 

 

also it's not a matter of having an effective armed fore against it, it just doesn't work.

 

colombia tried, didn't work. it's a matter of gathering and using intelligence.

Well, to be fair, Columbia had the problem of the FARC using the drug trade to fuel their Civil War... in Mexico, it's just greedy Cartels wanting more money and a country out of which they can operate with impunity.

What's probably going on is that the CIA actually instituted this uprising in order to convince us (and the Mexican people) that it is the right thing to by having the US govt eventually go in there and throw shit over.

Coupled with immigration issues and the failing global economy, we'll exploit our "right" to Canadian oil and Mexican cheap labor, thereby combining all three "forces" into the North American Union. The Amero will emerge, and with it eradicate our debts in (former) Dollars. This shift will also require a redrafting of the Constitution.

Simple.

  GORDO said:

or legalizing drugs.

This is the only real solution. Look at what happened to american organized crime after prohibition ended.

  Al Hounos said:

  GORDO said:

or legalizing drugs.

 

This is the only real solution. Look at what happened to american organized crime after prohibition ended.

do you think this Mexico violence puts any added pressure on the legalization argument?

  Joyrex said:

  GORDO said:

or legalizing drugs.

 

 

also it's not a matter of having an effective armed fore against it, it just doesn't work.

 

colombia tried, didn't work. it's a matter of gathering and using intelligence.

 

Well, to be fair, Columbia had the problem of the FARC using the drug trade to fuel their Civil War... in Mexico, it's just greedy Cartels wanting more money and a country out of which they can operate with impunity.

they had both problems and when they used brute force to try to solve them they became one. andres escobar wasn't a "revolutionary". mexico has had it's share of "guerrilla" groups, there are a few active still.

the brute force approach the US took in their "war on drugs" also failed.

  gl0tch said:

What's probably going on is that the CIA actually instituted this uprising in order to convince us (and the Mexican people) that it is the right thing to by having the US govt eventually go in there and throw shit over.

 

Coupled with immigration issues and the failing global economy, we'll exploit our "right" to Canadian oil and Mexican cheap labor, thereby combining all three "forces" into the North American Union. The Amero will emerge, and with it eradicate our debts in (former) Dollars. This shift will also require a redrafting of the Constitution.

 

Simple.

It's not an uprising, it's what organized crime becomes in impunity.

No, what's going on is this:

the previous mexican government didn't keep the drug cartels in check, so they grew out of proportion and started fighting each other for territory and trade routes (before they would just stick to their "zone"). this is how the beheadings started to happen.

then came the mexican elections and the legality of it came into question (it was dirty and probably a fraud on many levels, but we''ll never know for sure). so the president, in a move to add "legitimacy" to his government wanted to use the military force for something, so, without any strategy at all he just sent military on the streets acting as a police force. naturally drug cartels got pissed and fought back.

jesus fucking christ

mexico's largest luke hazards join forces

thousands slain instantly

  Hanratty said:

  Al Hounos said:

  GORDO said:

or legalizing drugs.

 

This is the only real solution. Look at what happened to american organized crime after prohibition ended.

 

 

do you think this Mexico violence puts any added pressure on the legalization argument?

i was flipping the channels yesterday and saw this exact argument on fox news

now there are arguments from both non-smokers and smokers, coupled with california having no money AND obama okaying the dispensaries...why not tax the largest cash crop

i can't see them legalizing anything other than weed though

  tv_party said:

  EDGEY said:

Yes, so now, we, the United States, must pass gun ban legislation so we can stop them.

If we stop Americans from owning guns, we will crush the Mexican drug cartels!

:undecided:

 

What does that have to do with anything?

Is our armed civillian populace effectively stopping them right now?

Obama is planning on a new bit of legislation to ban "assault weapons" to, and I quote "help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border". You know, because Americans are always buying "assault weapons" and bringing them down to mexico to give them to Mexican drug cartels... So in effect, passing new legislation, making it illegal for law-abiding citizens to purchase these weapons in the United States is going to have great effect on the drug cartels who are obligated to obey American law... wait, what? Oh yeh, the cartels have grenades, so maybe we should pass a law so that Americans can't buy grenades and bring them down to the Mexican drug cartels.. oh wait, Americans can't buy grenades... fuck it, just ban the guns then, we wanted to do that anyway.

  alpaca said:

  Hanratty said:

  Al Hounos said:

  GORDO said:

or legalizing drugs.

 

This is the only real solution. Look at what happened to american organized crime after prohibition ended.

 

 

do you think this Mexico violence puts any added pressure on the legalization argument?

 

 

i was flipping the channels yesterday and saw this exact argument on fox news

 

 

now there are arguments from both non-smokers and smokers, coupled with california having no money AND obama okaying the dispensaries...why not tax the largest cash crop

 

 

i can't see them legalizing anything other than weed though

They should legalize, regulate and tax marijuana, just like they do alcohol, they should also free all "criminals" arrested for marijuana charges to lower prison populations, thereby lowering taxpayer cost to house and feed them. This will also lower the violent crime associated with drug trafficking. So, increased revenue for the government, less burden on taxpayers, less crime... Socio/Economic crisis solved.

This looks awesome, I hope this escalates.

oh boohoo

you can fucking bet if they can smuggle drugs into the us and normal every day lower class mexican citizens can just sneak into the country on a whim, highly organized drug cartells can get into the country to buy assault weapons from any number of sources, including shady american citizens.

If assault rifles are illegal, thats many many many less sources for these people to buy from. I dont get how you can even act like it doesnt reduce the chances of this happening.

people shouldnt be able to buy assault weapons in the first place "law abiding" or not

  Salvatorin said:

This looks awesome, I hope this escalates.

what the fuck is wrong with you.

  42Orange said:

If assault rifles are illegal, thats many many many less sources for these people to buy from. I dont get how you can even act like it doesnt reduce the chances of this happening.

lol.

The drug cartels are using automatic weapons and grenades... they want to ban semi-automatic rifles in the states (a ban already in place once, that had ZERO effect on crime, and expired).

The fact remains, those participating in trafficking weapons accross the border, are criminals, just like those trafficking drugs accross the border. Criminals do not care about laws. Prosecute the crime, prosecute the criminals, do not punish the law-abiding citizen because the government can't figure out how to control the situation. The only loser here is the American citizen.