Atop Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) I will begin this by saying yes I know there is another thread about this film.... I have started a new one to give 'Knowing' the proper respect it deserves..... Do not read further if you haven't seen the film..... please Some of my first memories being films such as E.T., Close Encounters of the Third Kind, The Dark Crystal, Blade Runner, Alien, Dune, Krull, The Never Ending Story, Star Wars (the first ones), Star Trek(the second and on, and a bit later the first film), The Exorcist, The Omen, and Nightmare on Elm Street.... These films seem to have all brought myself to a certain culminating point at which the film 'Knowing' synthesizes and was made for myself, my tastes, what I find wonderful about the imagination, spirituality, all beliefs and an inert want to be faced with fear, just to be able to conquer it.... Cynics and Fundamentals can agree on one thing, that we all die.... what happens after death is something to be talked about until the end of humanity and of all life on earth..... but what we fear the most is what is dark, intangible, terror on a scale that no human hand could ever invent, no matter how hard we try....... H P Lovecraft and Poe have captured this feeling the most out of all the writers I have read...... Using symbol and poetic verse to feed whatever it is that we fear the most on a personal level.... and even earlier, Dante Alighieri, Nostradamus and St John being the first horror writers....... Then on the other side we have wonderful fantasy being invented by Rabelais, Shakespeare, Hawthorne, Carrol, George MacDonald, David Lindsay, William Blake, Edward Bulwer Lytton, Arthur Machen, Algernon Blackwood, Lord Dunsany...... and earlier with all mythology, the writers of the holy books (Vedas, Judaic, Muslim, Zoroastrianism, Taoist) and finally to Arthur C Clarke, co-creator of '2001: A Space Odyssey', writer of the books 'Childhood's End', 'Rendezvous with Rama', and the novelization of '2001', amongst many other books that I have yet to read..... what I have read is enough for me to know that this man is/was a gift to mankind with his wonderful mind.... 'Knowing' is a tribute to all of this..... The writers: Richard Kelly ('Donnie Darko'), Ryan Douglas Pearson ('Mercury Rising'), Stuart Hazledine (an upcoming adaptation of 'Paradise Lost'), Stiles White and Juliet Snowden('Bogeyman'), and writer/director Alex Proyas (Dark City) all worked on this story to try and make it a perfect film for all science-fiction, fantasy and horror fans..... The horrific parts: The devastation scenes in the film are all so well done and intense that I could see this film being a problem for most viewers...... I almost had to look away several times........ the science-fiction scenes: made to appeal to all of the nerds, graphic designers, lovers of the work of visual effects wizard Douglas Trumbull, and dark fantasy lovers.... the mythology: a lot taken from the Old Testament.... Arthur C Clarke's 'Childhood's End', one of my favourite novels.... short and extremely sweet! Was a major influence as well..... So I am guessing you know how I feel about this film...... 'Knowing' scared me, scarred me, and left me with the need to write this.... almost as a warning... this film could ruin relationships, make you feel sick at your stomach, and hopefully think Nicolas Cage is really a decent actor who pick bad films to star in.....hehehe he chose wisely with this one... 'Knowing' will be talked about and celebrated for years to come.... Hopefully it will fuck with your mind as much as it did mine.... thanks for reading, Akkad The Orphic Priest Edited March 25, 2009 by Atop Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
beneboi Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 the acting was fucking terrible. whoever the lead female was, i couldn't fucking stand her and was happy she died. the movie sucked, but the accident scenes (plane, subway) were cool. i definitely got an ET/Cocoon vibe from the alien shit and i thought it was pretty cheesy. 6/10 wouldnt watch again -alzado Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-990680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted March 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Yeah but look at your sig man... You have bad taste... So go watch 'The Pianist' again and cry over your man-love for Adrian Brody..... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-990682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beneboi Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 lol where did that come from Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-990683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beatfanatic Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 I would do a gay on Adrein Brody , just sayin Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-990688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted March 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) I 'Know' what you are thinking..... beneboi said: lol where did that come from It came from me not liking your post being the first one in my thread.... dick move... I hate dick....... Edited March 25, 2009 by Atop Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-990689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A/D Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 but . . his hair is a bird, so your argument is invalid? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-990891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted March 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 YES! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-990894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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QBLA Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 i just want mirezzi's opinion! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide QBLA's signature Hide all signatures BONDING TAPES JOYFUL UNION CASSETTE BLOG ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-990903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 I'm going to read some reviews and spoil it for myself. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-990905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 i saw the trailer and swore never to see this film. looks like pure shite man wtf Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-990974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Salads Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Why cant you write a coherent review Atop, without spoiling it. Just sum up why I should see this movie as quickly as you can Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-991115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mirezzi Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Alex Proyas seems to be a one-trick pony. You can't get much more awful than I, Robot. I'm looking forward to watching Knowing, but it won't be until its Blu-ray release. No way am I gonna sit in a theater for that one. I still have hemorrhoids from Benjamin Button. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-991120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinicalypse Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 yeah seriously other than some little things like seeing the bitch from the plane crash be like HELP MEEEE HELP MEEE while she's standing tehre non-charred while people are literally hanging halfway out of the airplane looking damn near lifeless, that was great, showcasing the inehrent selfishness of self-important bitches. the disasters are great, if not fleeting. and the bitch who gets super annoying gets dispatched nicely. but otherwise how can this movie fuck with you?!@ it's just like signs in that it wants to tug at your heart to get you to embrace faith and be one with god and know you're going to heaven you good little boy, except that tehy get tehir salvation in the form of aliens who are deathly allergic to water in signs and here, well, they torch the earth and say fuckall but hey there's cool aliens that'll save some of the creepier kids in the world, the ones who "hear the whispers" if you know what i mean. seriously tho, this isn't some philosophical romp that causes you to look at life and question what is real what is everything what am i doing thinking this way!?@ solaris was better for that with the clones of your loved ones and wondering if you can knowingly love an illusion as opposed to being without the real thing. that's thinking. this is a bunch of hooey. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sinicalypse's signature Hide all signatures thirtyseven seconds into the future... thee sinicollapse web experience lies here. obviously, you need to have your webpage owned by newscorp for it to be the truth. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-991122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted March 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 The initial shock of the disaster scenes is what got me... upon thinking more about the film and downloading a crappy camera copy, the symbolism and fantasy within the film are what I enjoyed the most..... Cage has some lines that are just plain funny.... "I can still see their faces....burning..." and I love rabbits.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-991967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLA FUR BIS FLE Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) KILLING ME WON'T BRING BACK YOUR GOD DAMN HONEY! AAAGGGGGHG MY EEYEES! Edited March 26, 2009 by thanks robert moses Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide FLA FUR BIS FLE's signature Hide all signatures through the years, a man peoples a space with images of provinces, kingdoms, mountains, bays, ships, islands, fishes, rooms, tools, stars, horses and people. shortly before his death, he discovers that the patient labyrinth of lines traces the image of his own face. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-991977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 the few critics who gave this decent reviews and said Cage's acting is "much better here than his other recent films" are kidding themselves. I was laughing almost non stop. Everything he does, from the way he runs like a spastic fairy to his blank Segal-esque zen stare crack me up, but not in a really funny way, more in a "shit I got suckered into another crap Cage film" way..... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-992030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted March 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 was better than 'Next' though... gotta look at the bright side bro.... Stop the Negativity! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-993094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autopilot Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 You may have swayed me to go see this. Possibly. Maybe. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-993244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Atop said: and finally to Arthur C Clarke, co-creator of '2001: A Space Odyssey', writer of the books 'Childhood's End', 'Rendezvous with Rama', and the novelization of '2001', amongst many other books that I have yet to read..... YOu should read some of his earlier works...especially his really early short stories...like The Sentinel of Eternity and Guardian Angel. Also, the novel was finished way before the movie, but they released them in the same year for marketing. Both of them are based heavily upon the Sentinel of Eternity, and Guardian Angel is the basis for Childhood's End. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-993254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IRARI Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 autopilot said: You may have swayed me to go see this. Possibly. Maybe. probably no :björk: Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-993260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autopilot Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Post dvd release torrent seems most likely. I fucking hate movie theater seats. I think I still have ass bruises from Watchmen. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-993262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beneboi Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 autopilot said: Post dvd release torrent seems most likely. I fucking hate movie theater seats. I think I still have ass bruises from Watchmen. *tries to stifle a giant blue penis joke* Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-993264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autopilot Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Why does everyone describe that blue penis as "giant"? They've obviously never met Autopilot Jr. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/43963-knowing/#findComment-993269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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