karmakramer Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 http://cbs5.com/crime/zodiac.killer.claim.2.997735.html Woman Claims Father Was Infamous Zodiac Killer SAN FRANCISCO (CBS 5 / AP / BCN) ― San Francisco police were looking into a woman's claim Wednesday that her late father was the infamous Zodiac killer who terrorized the Bay Area in the 1960s and 1970s. Homicide investigators were checking information provided by 47-year-old Deborah Perez, who said that as a young girl that she helped her father write and mail some of the letters that earned him the sensational nickname, SFPD Sgt. Lyn Tomioka said. Perez of Corona, in Orange County, told reporters that she was a little girl when her father killed at least two of the known victims nearly 40 years ago. Perez said that she was seven years old and was with her father, Guy Ward Hendrickson, when he killed Darlene Ferrin at a park in Vallejo and cab driver Paul Stine in San Francisco in 1969. Perez said she has given police what she believes were the eyeglasses Stine wore and letters she wrote on her father's behalf about the crimes. She said her father took the glasses off of Stine's face and she kept them all these years and only recently realized they belonged to a murder victim and not her father. Perez said she saw a composite sketch of the Zodiac killer in August 2007 and recognized the man as her father, who died in 1983. She said she had never heard of the Zodiac killer prior to seeing the composite sketch. The Zodiac killer is believed to have murdered at least five people and possibly as many as 36. He sent letters to local newspapers including The San Francisco Chronicle and The San Francisco Examiner that were splashed across the front pages, taunting reporters, police and the public with codes and clues to find his identity. Nevertheless, his true identity has never been confirmed by police. Kevin McLean, also in attendance at the Perez news conference, said he worked with attorney Melvin Belli who the Zodiac killer contacted pleading for help. McLean, acting as Perez's spokesperson, said handwriting tests show Perez did write some of the letters, and they hope DNA testing can be done on the glasses believed to belong to Stine. Sgt. Tomioka said while detectives continued to follow leads and treat all claims equally, she emphasized that there was only one known murder that took place in San Francisco linked to the Zodiac. McLean said Perez decided to reveal her father's identity in response to a Sacramento man who had claimed a relative of his was the Zodiac killer. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) last year some kid said his step dad was the zodiac killer and among his step dad's shit he found a bloody knife and the weird hoodie thing that zodiac wore when he stabbed that couple at the reservoir. apparently dads are popular candidates for the zodiac killer. PAPA Edited April 30, 2009 by Alcofribas Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 sensationalists trying to publicize their documentary. shameless. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide J3FF3R00's signature Hide all signatures 666 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spike Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 just to clarify how creepy this was back then. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 my dad could wup yours Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I thought some guy admitted to being the Zodiac, and said his last letter (the long one that nobody figured out) was just snickerlish. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Snickerlish. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 the movie was good Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Helper ET Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 ya i like the scene near the end where the journalist came into the store and just looks at the zodiac killer for a bit then walks out. quite awesome Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrcopyandpaste Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 oh yeah real good skillz et Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Helper ET Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) dude cmon, let me at least discuss a movie without being identified as "ET is saying something". i genuinly liked that scene, has nothing to do with anything else i think im snapping...and by snapping i mean the big snap...you know, the one where you actually crack open and explode even my saying this is an inevitable seeming of "attention or trolling". i choose to ignore such posts from now on...and my replies to such ideas were a fault of my own. starting.....................now! how can anyone prove that the zodiac killer has died if they dont even know who it was? Edited April 30, 2009 by Helper ET Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 lol far out ET Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholdapalehorse Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Alcofribas said: last year some kid said his step dad was the zodiac killer and among his step dad's shit he found a bloody knife and the weird hoodie thing that zodiac wore when he stabbed that couple at the reservoir. apparently dads are popular candidates for the zodiac killer. PAPA Yeah actually he's in the news again, Mr. Kaufman(sp?) has found actual snuff photos too. They are gruesome pictures of a female with body parts cut up and a strangled boy. His dad definitely was a serial killer and could be zodiac killer. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Ehm... if she helped her father write the Zodiac letters why didn't she think about the fact that he had made her write stuff like: "School children make nice targets, I think I shall wipe out a school bus some morning. Just shoot out the front tire + then pick off the kiddies as they come bouncing out."? I know that she was only a kid at the time, but if my father had forced me to write this kind of fucked up stuff I would probably remember it. Also, it doesn't make any sense, because didn't Robert 'Bob' Hall Starr/Arthur Leigh Allen send his brother a Christmas letter where he wrote "Christmass" just like in the letters to Melvin Mouron Belli? Would he have made his daughter write the Christmas cards as well? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 My dad was the Pontiac killer.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Alcofribas said: last year some kid said his dubstep was the zodiac killer PAPA Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
patternoverlap Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 It was John Titor. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide patternoverlap's signature Hide all signatures New Prints Available Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Sensi Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) I am not Avery. Edited April 30, 2009 by Oscar Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 i just read this on a news site and the police said they hadnt received any glasses from her. so? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mirezzi Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 ET said: ya i like the scene near the end where the journalist came into the store and just looks at the zodiac killer for a bit then walks out. quite awesome Yeah, and as much as I liked Zodiac (I thought it was brilliant), Fincher basically sold us Graysmith's version of the story, that the Zodiac Killer was Arthur Leigh Allen. That last scene in particular leaves a pointed finger at Allen. If anything from this woman's story is verified, it will completely shoot holes in Graysmith's book and consequently Fincher's film. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
six Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 The Overlook said: ET said: ya i like the scene near the end where the journalist came into the store and just looks at the zodiac killer for a bit then walks out. quite awesome Yeah, and as much as I liked Zodiac (I thought it was brilliant), Fincher basically sold us Graysmith's version of the story, that the Zodiac Killer was Arthur Leigh Allen. That last scene in particular leaves a pointed finger at Allen. If anything from this woman's story is verified, it will completely shoot holes in Graysmith's book and consequently Fincher's film. Well, it was one man's interpretation. I feel like the whole point of the story was the obsession and frustration of not knowing. Whether it was right or wrong doesn't make it any less of a compelling story. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide six's signature Hide all signatures Smash TV Youtube Sparkle Motion mixes on Mixcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnio Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 patternoverlap said: It was John Titor. lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Braintree said: Snickerlish. I played "You Don't Know Jack" every two days for about a year straight in high school. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1028750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catsonearth Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 i've been interested in this case for a really long time and was excited by the news yesterday, but of course, it turned out to be pretty sketchy. i'm not sure i really believe this chick...there were a lot of weird things about the zodiac case and her claims don't really address any of them. but i was reading about the other dude, dennis kaufman, who believes that his step-father was the zodiac (that's the dude that found the snuff pics, the mask, the diagrams, etc.). not sure if i believe him either, but he's got a lot more evidence. it's clear that his step dad was definitely a serial killer, even if he wasn't the zodiac. check through his site: http://therealzodiackiller.com/ lots of circumstantial evidence and he claims to have pieced together some of the stranger aspects like the mt. diablo radians and whatnot. he even called up his step dad before he died and tries to get him to come clean. the transcripts are down near the bottom of the page. there are also audio files, but they're kinda janky. not sure how i feel about it. he doesn't deny anything and he seems to reference stuff in vague ways, but i don't know if that's really proof. still, interesting read. if anything, i'd believe this guy over the chick. her story seems too fishy to me. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1029022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 catsonearth said: i've been interested in this case for a really long time and was excited by the news yesterday, but of course, it turned out to be pretty sketchy. i'm not sure i really believe this chick...there were a lot of weird things about the zodiac case and her claims don't really address any of them. but i was reading about the other dude, dennis kaufman, who believes that his step-father was the zodiac (that's the dude that found the snuff pics, the mask, the diagrams, etc.). not sure if i believe him either, but he's got a lot more evidence. it's clear that his step dad was definitely a serial killer, even if he wasn't the zodiac. check through his site: http://therealzodiackiller.com/ lots of circumstantial evidence and he claims to have pieced together some of the stranger aspects like the mt. diablo radians and whatnot. he even called up his step dad before he died and tries to get him to come clean. the transcripts are down near the bottom of the page. there are also audio files, but they're kinda janky. not sure how i feel about it. he doesn't deny anything and he seems to reference stuff in vague ways, but i don't know if that's really proof. still, interesting read. if anything, i'd believe this guy over the chick. her story seems too fishy to me. The handwriting is very similar to the Zodiac's... scary. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45211-zodiac-killer-was-my-dad/#findComment-1029068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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