Joyrex Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Interesting video: http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=22657810001 And embedded for the lazys: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCONES TO DIE FOR Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 This guy teaches at my Alma Mater - UC Santa Barbara. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doorjamb Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 granny synth Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide doorjamb's signature Hide all signatures minipoops Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iep Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 wow, roads opened FOR autechre? i only heard him once in concert but that was a very impressive experience. i rate his pointlinecloud album and his books highly also. dude's got a firm grip on the aesthetic side as well as on the more precise and conceptual side. pretty cool video! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iep Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 from the album.. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David R James Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Try reading his book 'Microsound'. I had to studied it for uni, fried my brains, understand it now though. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest telikan Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 yeah, i knew he had written the Microsound book, so I listened to his Point Line Cloud album bout a year ago, and wasn't really blown away. much respect for his pontification and advancement on granular synthesis in general, but people have made more engaging music with it. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 music that sounds like miscellaneous wet clicks and farts :| Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonstock Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 idm asymmetrical heads album cover cool video voila! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide goonstock's signature Hide all signatures (Bob Wilson) Sorry... you created that reality tunnel, you can find your way out... You built the Trap... you know the design better than anyone... Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 This is a great book by Curtis Roads: http://www.amazon.com/Computer-Music-Tutor...0226&sr=1-1 If you're interested in synthesis and want to have a wide array of topics at your fingertips, this is definitely a high recommendation. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ms-dos Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 He's a legend. Everyone who makes music (electronic or otherwise) should probably have a copy of his Computer Music Tutorial at their disposal. Even though a lot of the material in the book was written decades ago, almost all of it is still relevant and useful in practical applications. He's a very nice man too. I've emailed him a couple times with beginner'ish technical questions, and he gave me thoughtful replies both times. I don't even go to his school. His work is a bit stuffy and academic, and I rarely listen to it, but we can't deny the impact he had on electronic music's development. I think the development of granular synthesis is almost as important and interesting as FM synthesis or the like. It changed the way I think about sound. I'll Nth the Microsound recommendation. It's not just a technical book like the CMT. It spends nearly as much time on the aesthetics of microsound, detailing the relationship between sound elements among a variety of time scales. And it's loaded with interesting history. Max Matthews, Xenakis, Paul Lansky, etc. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCONES TO DIE FOR Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Can you guys elaborate on how the CMT is so useful. The Amazon description isn't that good and I'm lazy. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ms-dos Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 scones to die for said: Can you guys elaborate on how the CMT is so useful. The Amazon description isn't that good and I'm lazy. It covers an extremely wide variety of topics. Analog to digital conversion, additive synthesis, FM synthesis, digital filter theory, FFT, algorithmic composition, MIDI, physical modeling, musical control interfaces, you name it ... It doesn't go into great depth about any of those topics, but it gives you enough material to get a pretty good start on your project. Plus it has a really extensive bibliography. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David R James Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) For me curtis roads theories and music are (obviously) based on the idea music is can be academic like art, or dance or whatever. It depends on how open your are to this, and whether or not you will completely discredit it or not as i am sure most of WATMM might. Edited May 12, 2009 by David R James Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ms-dos Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I just checked the Amazon description and it looks pretty spot on. What else do you want to know about it? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 hahathhat said: music that sounds like miscellaneous wet clicks and farts :| welcome to the world of academic 20th century electronic music! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David R James Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 hahathhat said: music that sounds like miscellaneous wet clicks and farts :| As im sure you do alot, with your home made electronic noise making devices, making random noises is the essence of electronic music , if some one has never done this they have never made electronic music. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 it doesn't end at the randomness stage though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 granular synthesis i wonder why he takes so long to make tracks Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) David R James said: hahathhat said: music that sounds like miscellaneous wet clicks and farts :| As im sure you do alot, with your home made electronic noise making devices, making random noises is the essence of electronic music , if some one has never done this they have never made electronic music. this is true, but i do think it's cute & endearing that most of these highly trained academic electronic music composers end up making music that simply does sound like wet clicks, farts, bleeps and bloops of a very similar nature. I love morton subotnick *runs* Edited May 12, 2009 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCONES TO DIE FOR Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 ms-dos said: I just checked the Amazon description and it looks pretty spot on. What else do you want to know about it? Your description was better. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 David R James said: hahathhat said: music that sounds like miscellaneous wet clicks and farts :| As im sure you do alot, with your home made electronic noise making devices, making random noises is the essence of electronic music , if some one has never done this they have never made electronic music. though i may produce a shitload of wet farty noises in my studio, that's not what my finished tracks sound like. and i don't have to work on them for years, either. he said the first tape he put on was a demo of the technology... well, all of it sounds like a tech demo to me. i'm not trying to say he's useless, just that he should stick to writing books and programming. i thought the gardening book recommendation was cool. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Sensi Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I own Microsound and The Computer Music Tutorial and they're excellent. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1039857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
six Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I love Point Line Cloud, I find it very relaxing. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide six's signature Hide all signatures Smash TV Youtube Sparkle Motion mixes on Mixcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1040376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) interesting so many people in here have heard this guy's CD, when i dropped Subotnick in the AE forum a good chunk of the people haven't even heard of him. So i ask what is the deal with Curtis Roads and how does he have more recognition on watmm than say morton subotnick, oliveros, tudor? i honestly hadn't heard of him until this thread and i consider myself somewhat knowledgeable on early electronic music Edited May 13, 2009 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/45603-curtis-roads-granular-synthesis/#findComment-1040380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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