whats the best forum.

Don't get me wrong, this place is great, but I would like to find a place where everybody is way hardcore about it and knows what they are talking about(wait, that sounded bad, I really just mean a place that is more active in discussion in general). I tried DogsOnAcid but its mainly full of morons who are trying to copy really basic synth sounds and searching for the perfect break. I also like kvraudio, I've been on that forum longer than I've been on here but I find it hard to relate to most of the music and they seem to obsess about the latest plugins more than anything on there(which isn't such a bad thing IMO). Are there any places that you browse that seem to stimulate your mind/offer the best nuggets of information more than others?

Keep In mind I've been making music constantly for the past 6 years or so and I'm not looking for information like "how do I load synthesizer?", more like just advanced technical stuff to stimulate my mind by respected people who have been producing music for a a while.

rtfm

em411

  Adjective said:

em411

I signed up to em411 years ago but have never touched my account... I should give it a try.

The one thing I wish there was more of is constructive criticism. I suppose that is hard when people don't know you that well, especially with the amount of tracks being posted, but if someone listens I'd love to hear about the mixing/mastering, etc.

i don't really go there that much anymore because i kind of need the boner and poop of watmm, but i remember it as sort of an older grown up watmm

the first place i ever checked out was the idm mailing list. people were like , is this guy serious? i was clueless and it didn't help. this place is good, 411 is good too

Bubba I find it funny that you are boasting how hardcore you have been making music, when after I asked you in PM's for songs you made you in EnergyXT and Buzz (same as I did back then) you said you never made anything.

  Adjective said:

i don't really go there that much anymore because i kind of need the boner and poop of watmm, but i remember it as sort of an older grown up watmm

it was a great site a few years ago, and while i'll sometimes spot a useful post it seems pretty slow now, limited content and some other weird things.

shame bogdan and whoever else didn't continue working on it/maintaining it. i've been tempted for a while to rip the idea off and plug in some of the old features like reviews, interviews, patch swopping etc. it'd probably end up as good as idmforums though.

  acid1 said:

Bubba I find it funny that you are boasting how hardcore you have been making music, when after I asked you in PM's for songs you made you in EnergyXT and Buzz (same as I did back then) you said you never made anything.

lol, I don't really remember that but I do remember you used buzz. I don't use Buzz anymore though. I THINK I probably only made about 10-15 finished tracks that ever used buzz in them. Only a couple of them were a combination of the two. I don't know why I would have said "I never made anything", maybe I was embaressed to share them although I wish I could find those tracks again, I've got to get ahold of my old HD or find the CDs I burned them to. Did you ask me on this forum or KVR, or buzzchurch?

em411 looks a little bit sparse, am I seeing the right forum?

EDIT: Oh yeah, found that PM, but can't find my response to it.

em411 is well shit. well beginner.

gearslutz.com has an electronic music section that is generally pretty wicked, and there are tons of threads to search on.

muffwigglers.com/forum is for modular users, but the production section would be relevant.

but otherwise gearslutz is by far the best ive seen and regulary read.

i found the best forums are ones that exclusive to the DAW you are using

the cubase/nuendo forums, the logic forums, the ableton forums etc

a lot the audio production forums are filled with braggarts who talk out their ass and pretend to know things about production. at least in a specific ie Cubase forum you know someone who doesn't use Cubase would have very little motivation for getting on a soapboax about how beautiful his A/d converters sound VS someone elses. It's all really straight forward 'how do i do this in ____' and most of the time the answers are technical and helpful

However don't go into the Native Instruments forum expecting them to take kindly to any criticism whatsoever of their products. There are a few dudes in there who jump down your throat if you make any such gestures. be careful in that forum. If you are expecting the classic NI you used to know and love that was all about making crazy german electronic music, you might be really disappointed.

don't listen to me listen to Brandi_B

+1 Gear Slutz

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/forums/

yah, gear slutz +10000000000 great site, very rarely do I see newbie threads. There's a few but they are outweighed by the other good threads. I learned a lot from the mastering section there. I'd say mastering, high end, and part of the electronic instrument/production forums have pretty serious musicians that don't really flame much and talk more about how they use their gear than what style of wood and colors for their side panel for their minimoog...which leads me to...

Vintage Synth Explorer

http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/index.php

The Vintage snth forum has pretty serious collectors/hobby musicians and some serious musicians if you want to talk about synths it's a great place, the people know their stuff there. It's made up of a lot of former harmony-central keys, synths, and samplers forum members who got tired of all the noob threads on HC. Not the best place to talk about music theroy or how scales intertwine with each other (though i wouldnt rule that convo out) but when looking to make a new purchase of a synth new or vintage.

Electro Music

http://electro-music.com/forum/forums.html

Has the best nord modular board and is very very very heavily organized into different sections, so its really easy to find what you're looking for if doing research, but imo cuts down on the traffic b/c theres so many different places to go and stuff in general can disappear into a sub forum to never be replied to again. But def. are some very serious and intelligent people there. Especially for nord modular related programming.

Audio Masters

http://www.audiomastersforum.net/amforum/index.php

Has some noobs but thats almost impossible to avoid. THis place has a pretty decent number of actual working and geting paid for their work musicians/producers. A lot of tips for getting/working on commercial stuff. Great place for talking about cooledit/adobe audition (which is still my top audio editing [not sequencing/producing] program). It's not the most active forum though, but it has a decent pulse.

Mailing lists:

Analogue-Heaven

machines.hyperreal.org/Analogue-Heaven/

Def. lots of gear lust and tlaking about gear, but many brilliant people are on this list.

Waldorf Synthesizers

www.waldorf-forum.com

Most likely not up your alley if you don't own anything by Waldorf, and no where near as awesome as it used to be, but you can search the archives for a wealth of info not just on waldorfs products but some pretty cool in depth synthesists are on this list. I think mainly due to waldorfs aim at pro synthesists, not preset users or generic music makers but people who love to program synthesizers. This has lead to a pretty great community but sadly its volume is pretty low, though getting better since waldorf is making a comeback, but the company's insolvency a few years back put a giant dent in the waldorf community :_(. But like i said the archive is great for browsing.

And about kvr which you mentioned...

It has a lot of gear lust and obsession going on there. I've found my best expirences were are pm's on that site.

It has such a vast mix of pro serious, to flaming newb it's hard to recommend. People can become very biased there ..example;, a lot of users think that every softsynth made with synth edit is crap b/c so many people have made simple ones using stock modules. When (imo) synth edit is a very in depth program that you can program your own modules for if you know how to code, and also use the stock modules very creatively if you really bog down and learn whats going on, something not everyone does. And i have a few free synths made with synth edit that i think are great. Regardless, all this and the many variables of the software world leads to a lot of tension arguments all over the place. So it's hit/miss but offers a lot of official support forums for great discussion about certain products that i rather enjoy. I've also conersed with some very well educated people there, and its a very active/popular place. Just very hard to pin down.

Also I agree with what Awepittance said. Find your niche. And NI forum :sick: . Which is sad b/c i shelled out for complete, but honestly i don't have much to talk about NI because their products are my top used and there's not much i don't understand about them. Though i barely use reaktor. I was really excited about owning it, only to find out i'm still completely happy and satisfied with Vaz modular and Tassman. Everything else is the business though, especially massive, i don't care how much cpu it uses :)

*breathes*

sorry bout the tl;dr post there :))

Hot damn. This thread is a goldmine!

great post! i haven't heard of most of these only electro music and analogue heaven (which are awesome) so ill have to check out the other ones.

Yeah, great post. Got some good stuff to check out now! Good call on the mailing list too, I was thinking there must be some nice oldschool groups and mailing lists that have good stuff on them.

So like, where do people go to discuss topics like "emulation of guitar body using parametric equalizer" types of topics? Like synthesis, sound design, and physical modeling?

the grid

http://www.dogsonacid.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4

/thread

I like the DOA Grid to an extent. Didn't mean to bash it so harshly before. It seems to have a lot of industry guys on it and people who are great at DnB. A lot of great comments. I just find myself uninteresting in things like "how do you slice your breaks?", "What net-label would want my style?", "rate my break!"..... etc.

  futuregirlfriend said:

  Adjective said:

i don't really go there that much anymore because i kind of need the boner and poop of watmm, but i remember it as sort of an older grown up watmm

 

it was a great site a few years ago, and while i'll sometimes spot a useful post it seems pretty slow now, limited content and some other weird things.

 

shame bogdan and whoever else didn't continue working on it/maintaining it. i've been tempted for a while to rip the idea off and plug in some of the old features like reviews, interviews, patch swopping etc.

And avatars!

  Bubba69 said:

So like, where do people go to discuss topics like "emulation of guitar body using parametric equalizer" types of topics? Like synthesis, sound design, and physical modeling?

each one of those things you just mentioned would probably be best on a separate mailing list. I'm not 100% sure what you mean by using parametric EQ to emulate a guitar 'body'. If you mean getting a certain amp/cab sound i'm sure things like the Guitar rig forum on the Native instruments website would be helpful.

I dont know of any personally that focus on physical modeling synthesis. Possibly there is a Tassman mailing list, the Logic forums have a lot of Sculpture talk (my favorite physical modeling synth)

for purely sound design there might be some film/post production sound forums, i don't know of any of those either

synthesis stuff there are tons, for analog synthesis there is Analogue Heaven and electro-music, already mentioned in ths thread. for expert tweaking of soft synths i'd check out em411, and ask people around here. out of the forums i've checked out there is believe or not quite an extensive amount of knowledge on EKT (Eespecially if you search through the archives) for what soft synths are good for certain typs of sounds.

  Awepittance said:

  Bubba69 said:

So like, where do people go to discuss topics like "emulation of guitar body using parametric equalizer" types of topics? Like synthesis, sound design, and physical modeling?

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by using parametric EQ to emulate a guitar 'body'.

 

I was just putting something out there, its not something I actually feel like I need to know at the moment, just a "for instance". I'm talking about the body of an acoustic guitar: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Sep01/arti...thsecrets29.asp I think it came to mind from memories of this article, or a similar article from the synth secrets series.

I mean, I'd say synthesis, sound design, and physical modeling are all closely related. Obviously you need to know a lot about synthesis to be an expert in physical modeling. Sound design I would say encompasses both of these topics, and much more. Damn, I'm tired, staying up too late, but my mind is still firing away..... :yawn: but yeah man, this shit seems like it can get so specialized and so deep its hard to know in what direction I want wade in, so much interesting stuff I probably haven't even considered yet.

Thanks for these replies guys, I check out some more of these sites tomorrow.

  Bubba69 said:

so much interesting stuff I probably haven't even considered yet.

yeah, some of the more 'high end' forums for want of a much better word can add 20 things to your 'list of stuff to learn' every time you go on them, I like that but it can be daunting.

gearslutz is great, very geared towards recording in places but the fundamentals stay the same throughout the subject and theres a hell of a lot of really great producers who regularly post there.

there are quite a lot of huge rambling/going no-where discussions about really subtle differences in gear that can be annoying, but it normally ends with two or three very knowledgable peeps getting really deep into the subject and you can just surf on that wave picking up stuff as you go..