Hip hop/ jazz influenced track

Threw this little bad boy together a few months ago.

Samples from good ol' Miles Davis, Jack Dejohnette, and John Coltrane.

Whatcha all think?

Hmm, over 20 views and no feedback? Not sure what that means. Hopefully you're all in awe and speechless.

But anyway...here's another little thing I've been working on the past couple of days.

i like the new one, 'specially the second part, kinda reminds me of dj embee, or dj krush's jazzier stuff ..

Yeah, definitely like the new track a lot more than the old one. Like Data says, it reminds me of a more smooth and not so dark DJ Krush tune

yeah the second one is way good, very urban, krush, bonobo-ish

Glad everyone's liking the second one! Like that one a lot myself...gonna try and make some more tracks along the same lines.

Any constructive criticism for the first one? I really like the atmosphere of that song. I think it could use some more variation.

Alright, part III of the series!

(If said series actually existed)

It is good quality and all, but there is a fundamental problem with making this kind of music and having jazz listeners hear it: jazz is based on improvisation! Layering repetitive jazz samples on top of eachother just pales in comparison to actually listening to jazz. Like Amon Tobin, for example. DnB listeners think its genius, just because the sample material is different, but jazz listeners just hear bits of good tunes being ruthlessly chopped up and repeated. But it doesn' t really matter if you work in an actual form to the tune, which I think you are attempting to do.

Hey thanks for the input. Believe me, if I had more people to play with and a more adequate knowledge of jazz, I'd be playing it live without a doubt. In fact I've been thinking about laying down some guitar tracks over some of these tunes. I definitely want to go back in and add variations to the loops and make it more live sounding.

  On 9/11/2009 at 8:31 AM, Alex0112 said:

Hey thanks for the input. Believe me, if I had more people to play with and a more adequate knowledge of jazz, I'd be playing it live without a doubt. In fact I've been thinking about laying down some guitar tracks over some of these tunes. I definitely want to go back in and add variations to the loops and make it more live sounding.

'Nother track idea:

  On 9/11/2009 at 7:45 AM, Salvatorin said:

It is good quality and all, but there is a fundamental problem with making this kind of music and having jazz listeners hear it: jazz is based on improvisation! Layering repetitive jazz samples on top of eachother just pales in comparison to actually listening to jazz. Like Amon Tobin, for example. DnB listeners think its genius, just because the sample material is different, but jazz listeners just hear bits of good tunes being ruthlessly chopped up and repeated. But it doesn' t really matter if you work in an actual form to the tune, which I think you are attempting to do.

The jazz people I've met have zero interest in acid jazz etc

I think you make a good point, I'm just not sure what your argument is. You're saying every acid jazz producer needs to change?

I don't necessarily think you can say that all music containing jazz samples pales in comparison to listening to real jazz...especially if done right. It's just a whole different format altogether. I'm a huge jazz fan and am learning jazz guitar, yet I love electronic music which has jazz influences...because it combines two of my favorite types of music. I think the jazz aesthetic brings a certain atmosphere which isn't found in other genres. I agree, it can be contrived and boring...but I'm trying...maybe not succeeding yet...but trying to make it interesting.

  On 9/12/2009 at 2:55 AM, chimera slot mom said:

  On 9/11/2009 at 7:45 AM, Salvatorin said:

It is good quality and all, but there is a fundamental problem with making this kind of music and having jazz listeners hear it: jazz is based on improvisation! Layering repetitive jazz samples on top of eachother just pales in comparison to actually listening to jazz. Like Amon Tobin, for example. DnB listeners think its genius, just because the sample material is different, but jazz listeners just hear bits of good tunes being ruthlessly chopped up and repeated. But it doesn' t really matter if you work in an actual form to the tune, which I think you are attempting to do.

 

The jazz people I've met have zero interest in acid jazz etc

 

I think you make a good point, I'm just not sure what your argument is. You're saying every acid jazz producer needs to change?

No, its more or less that I don't listen to this type of music.

Nice Shit dude! do me a favor check my shit dude tell me what you think

Put up some tracks on last.fm

Have a ton more tracks, if anyone's interested, or perhaps wants to collab.

http://www.last.fm/music/Young+Funk+Chump/Equal+Rights+For+Beats

Few lame descriptions of the tracks:

1. The Whitesox Shuffle- Made with samples from Miles Davis, Jack Dejohnette, and John Coltrane. Interesting take on hip hop with a jazz tinge.

2. Emancipation of the beat- Bumpin little groove' that transforms into a chillin hip hop beat.

3. Big City Beats- "smooth, urban sounding" hip hop track. Been told it sounds like DJ Krush and Bonobo.

4. Slow Burn- Listening to too much J Dilla. Short little soulful donut.

5. Datsyukian Dance- Took a stab at some ambient techno. Field-like.

6. The Not-so-democratic republic of funk- Sample from John Coltrane's "Africa/Brass"

7. Forgin'- Simple hip hop beat