legal smokes

been jonesing for some smoke lately since i don't know anyone here that can hook up with real bud. been reading about Kratom, a leaf extract with a supposedly mellow buzz that's even invigorating, anyone tried it? also been hearing about Spice Gold, a new blend that's supposed to have a high similar to decent weed.

i know the real thing is best, but what have people here tried that they would recommend? i'm staying away from all those fake looking bud products.

Kratom is supposed to have more of an opiate-type buzz to it, but I don't think you can smoke it. Only make teas and such. I have heard it is actually QUITE effective and can be addicting.

I heard about the Spice Gold but I don't think that's going to be around much longer.

Have you tried salvia? Definitely not like weed but it is legal and you can smoke it (going by the thread title here).

for fucks sake if you want to get stoned stop being a fucking pussy and smoke some weed

Yeah nothing is a substitute for weed but I've tried spice gold and its pretty..... meh. I mean if you really don't expect much I'm sure it can be really pleasant but its very very very subtle.

I dunno about kratom.

Seriously though go buy some salvia and smoke that and you'll have an experience you will never forget.

yeah i've tried salvia, had a very interesting 10 min. conversation with my toes. like most people say, it's a real turn off after a couple of times. not a pleasant trip.

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Why would you want fucking salvia? Jesus fucking christ don't smoke salvia for fucks sake.

  On 9/13/2009 at 8:54 AM, abusivegeorge said:

Why would you want fucking salvia? Jesus fucking christ don't smoke salvia for fucks sake.

no one said he did. settle down son.

going for an intense run/workout probably will get you higher than any of those legal knockoffs.

mugwort, mullen.... those are nice. I don't know if they really give you any kind of a high but they taste good.

tried Kratom at Glade. didn't do fuck all.

  On 9/13/2009 at 3:58 PM, xxx said:

"I'd like a nice sedan that's quiet for a drive around the countryside that reminds me of my Volvo"

"Oh, well there's always the Maserati with the accelerator stuck at infinity and the loop-de-loop stretch of road outside of town that takes you to the 4th dimension at times."

hahahahahahahah, yeah my single experience with the stuff gave me the most intense laughing fit. like 30 seconds just laughing hysterically, then not really too much else.

also, where abouts is OP from? i know about 10-15 people that smoke and 0 of them can find anything :(

  On 9/13/2009 at 3:58 PM, xxx said:

Heh. I like potential analogies related to asking around for "legal smoke" and getting the salvia answer.

 

"I'd like a nice sedan that's quiet for a drive around the countryside that reminds me of my Volvo"

"Oh, well there's always the Maserati with the accelerator stuck at infinity and the loop-de-loop stretch of road outside of town that takes you to the 4th dimension at times."

 

again, I realize that no one dictated "smoke salvia now!" but it's just a funny thought for me.

hahha brilliant

Salvia is fucked right up but definitely worth a shot at least once

  On 9/13/2009 at 7:09 PM, thehauntingsoul said:

Salvia is fucked right up but definitely worth a shot at least once

i agree.

That said, I still don't like salvia.

  On 9/13/2009 at 7:23 PM, sneaksta303 said:

  On 9/13/2009 at 7:09 PM, thehauntingsoul said:

Salvia is fucked right up but definitely worth a shot at least once

 

i agree.

 

 

That said, I still don't like salvia.

I also agree. Salvia is one of the most Horrible but Interesting experiences one can have.

Someone I know well has tried quite a bit of kratom in his time but is still weighing up the salvia option. This person has tried kratom in different forms. To begin with, at small doses it acts like a stimulant, and at high doses like a sedative. It can produce effects similar to speed, and at the higher doses is very similar to opium. In fact, there is a liquid extract of kratom that is an incredibly powerful experience; I would exercise caution not from any reasons of toxicity, but from the intensity of the high that can be achieved. Kratom is also one of the safest and least toxic drugs that one could take. It is also addictive and shouldn't be used on a regular basis as one could become dependent on the drug, reserve it for special occasions!

If you are looking for another legal alternative, you should definitely try Hawaiian Woodrose Seeds. The same person I know well has had some of the most enthralling life changing experiences on this drug. They contain LSA which is similar to LSD, though not as intense. Some people experience joint pain when under the influence, and you should start from a couple of seeds first, just to see if you have an allergic reaction. I've been told that cannabis is the perfect accompaniment to such a debached evening of sheer enjoyment. Listen to SAWII whilst under the influence of these seeds...

Also I've heard Kratom is really powerful as well.

if you wanna go all the way you wanna order some Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark

Do an extraction on that shit and you'll end up with a large amount of Dimethyltryptamine or DMT for short

Its supposedly the worlds strongest out of body experience

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To quote Terence McKenna, "The feeling of doing DMT is as though one had been struck by noetic lightning. The ordinary world is almost instantaneously replaced, not only with a hallucination, but a hallucination whose alien character is its utter alienness. Nothing in this world can prepare one for the impressions that fill your mind when you enter the DMT sensorium."

  On 9/13/2009 at 9:32 PM, thehauntingsoul said:

Also I've heard Kratom is really powerful as well.

 

if you wanna go all the way you wanna order some Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark

 

Do an extraction on that shit and you'll end up with a large amount of Dimethyltryptamine or DMT for short

 

yeah, i always wanted to do that after trying DMT but I never got around to it. DMT is fucking crazy awesome, but I def recommend a trip sitter (as with salvia) cuz you may do something stupid (probably more so with salvia though, at least in my experience).

  On 9/13/2009 at 9:52 PM, sneaksta303 said:

  On 9/13/2009 at 9:32 PM, thehauntingsoul said:

Also I've heard Kratom is really powerful as well.

 

if you wanna go all the way you wanna order some Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark

 

Do an extraction on that shit and you'll end up with a large amount of Dimethyltryptamine or DMT for short

 

 

yeah, i always wanted to do that after trying DMT but I never got around to it. DMT is fucking crazy awesome, but I def recommend a trip sitter (as with salvia) cuz you may do something stupid (probably more so with salvia though, at least in my experience).

Holy shit you've done DMT? Was it a total breakthrough dose or just a threshold dose?

I read a really funny trip report on erowid where a guy had some DMT leftover in his pipe and went to the park to smoke some weed but forgot about the DMT.

He took one hit, and he began to realize what that funky taste was and then BAM - Hyperspace!

there was once this mod that tried DMT

  On 9/14/2009 at 11:55 PM, Adjective said:

there was once this mod that tried DMT

nah, that's 3 syllables too many for the start of a limerick.

completely off topic, but i went to london for a weekend out this weekend, and ended up caving after 6 years of exposure and trying some pills. completely and utterly fantastic fair enough, i saw steve angello at ministry and i really have been missing out. i think when i go and see some minimal stuff that im in love with sober, im actually going to cream myself. i feel like a gibbering 14 year old kid.

that was probably methedrone or methylone - there's seems to be no mdma around these woods anymore. many people i know taking these are experiencing proper mdma love rushes that they havn't before on mdma. it's quite curious. personally i get extreme 'rubbing body on the carpet' pleasure from mdma, but drone/ylone is a subtler and kinda chill. thing is, if it's in a pill (ie. with speed/god knows what) then i'm very likely to puke it back up, unlike with a decently cut mdma pill. im basically stopping all that though - nowadays i find this turbo serotonin shit too much hassle.

onto subject - with salvia, it just made me lack any ability to comprehend stimilus and make all my clothes feel like they were covered in wet sand. i think it's fucking rubbish, like poppers for caners. wanna try kratom though.