you know what would be fucking awesome?

if someone developed buzz to run as a VST like reaktor can.

(i suppose i mention reaktor because it's the closest thing to VST buzz besides some other VST modular thing i used before which i forget the name of).

imagine the possibilities. you could use midiOX as a rewire-ish thing, using events in the host to trigger things in buzz.

i wonder if oskari ever thought of this?

yeah that'd be awesome. even if there was a buzz machine -> vst bridge like the one in FL, that'd be great because i really want to process recordings with buzz effects!

I really need to get out of my Reason funk and broaden my horizons. I'm missing out on SO MUCH!

  On 10/2/2009 at 7:51 AM, sneaksta303 said:

I really need to get out of my Reason funk and broaden my horizons. I'm missing out on SO MUCH!

I think your tracks could be better if you tried something else out, not just always Reason. I've used Reason since like 2001 and all my work has gone downhill since then. I think if you use a little bit of Reason with a DAW and some other synths and plug-ins you may have something decent or just get rid of Reason completly and use other things you could be onto something also. Reason sounds way too stiff.

yes i am working on that, after a short break.

do you guys realize that Fruity loops can be loaded as a VST instrument so that means that the Buzz - fruity plugin can in essence be loaded as a VST. fruity is so light weight that it takes up very little cpu when ran as a VST. i do it all the time with the fruity slicer in cubase.

the only limitation to this is that you can only load Fruity as a VST once i think in your whole session , so you would have to choose between using it as an instrument or effect. if you use it as an instrument you can use seperate midi tracks in your DAW of choice (im on cubase) to trigger many different buzz patches on fruity at the same time.

it's the ability to make weird pseudomodular setups that i'd love to have though

When I used to use buzz, I had heard about a modular vst host called energyXT which can be loaded as a vst plugin. Somebody skinned it to make the components and color scheme look like buzz(the original 1.4 version of energyXT, not the new one 2.5 which can't be skinned the same way). Anyways I bought a license and I would do weird versions of running buzz with another sequencer inside of it. I would use XT to do melodies with the piano roll and then chop up samples in buzz. I would also route all audio into XT and do my mixing there(XT is multi-in vst). Anyways I still use energyXT(old 1.4 version mostly) to this day although it is quite limited I'm so used to it and can work so quickly that I at least do all of my sequencing and drum programming/slicing in it. Anyways it works pretty well if you want to try something like that its worth tracking down energyXT, it will sync to buzz perfectly kind of like it is rewired but its just running inside of polac's vst loader.

also, if you want to load a tracker into a vst host, I recommend reViSiT. Kind of the other way around. Unfortunately this doesn't solve the problem of using buzz effects dammit. I guess my only solution would be FL as a vst with buzz FX in the mixer.

  On 10/7/2009 at 8:57 AM, Awepittance said:

do you guys realize that Fruity loops can be loaded as a VST instrument so that means that the Buzz - fruity plugin can in essence be loaded as a VST. fruity is so light weight that it takes up very little cpu when ran as a VST. i do it all the time with the fruity slicer in cubase.

 

the only limitation to this is that you can only load Fruity as a VST once i think in your whole session , so you would have to choose between using it as an instrument or effect. if you use it as an instrument you can use seperate midi tracks in your DAW of choice (im on cubase) to trigger many different buzz patches on fruity at the same time.

i think what kaini was getting at was the ability to wire up shit in buzz's modular set up stylee within another host

edit: *notices kaini's reply*

i'm sure if you join buzzchurch's forum you'll be able to suggest it, after all oskari is developing buzz again. it would be a feature that i'm sure many people will be interested in!

  On 10/9/2009 at 10:25 PM, kaini said:

it's the ability to make weird pseudomodular setups that i'd love to have though

you should be able to accomplish that by running fruity as VST

  On 10/9/2009 at 11:18 PM, LUDD said:

 

 

i think what kaini was getting at was the ability to wire up shit in buzz's modular set up stylee within another host

seems possible to do this, you'd just be running it indirectly (in fruityloops) but fruityloops just acts as a dummy placeholder, you would be doing all the triggering and things from the main host ie: Cubase SX or Logic.

nah, fl only supports effects not machines innit?

i can't imagine any way of doing ie

in FL

  On 10/11/2009 at 2:08 AM, kaini said:

nah, fl only supports effects not machines innit?

what do you mean by this?

in buzz you have two types of modules, effects and generators

long time since i used FL but iirc it only supports the effects

i could be wrong

I think it has a generator adapter as well as an effects adapter. I vaugely remember using rectal anarchy in a track.

yes i think this is true, i don't have fruityloops installed in this computer to check but download a new version of it and check it out.

fruity supports these generators

  On 10/12/2009 at 12:06 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

buzz predates my experience in music production so here's a couple of noob questions:

can you make your own buzz modules?

if so, how easy is it?

buzz machines are programmed with C++

so by being able to load the 'Buzz generator adapter' does that solve Kaini's issue?

i think what kaini wants is to use buzz'z modular style interface within another host

  On 10/2/2009 at 1:52 AM, kaini said:

imagine the possibilities. you could use midiOX as a rewire-ish thing, using events in the host to trigger things in buzz.

There's a 50/50 chance this is the machine you want -

http://www.buzzmachines.com/machineinfo.php?id=779

seems like it wouldn't be possible to do that in another host, but why not just premake Buzz instruments to use in your songs? it's nice to be able to play with modular stuff within hosts but for example when i use Reaktor most of the time i'm just calling up patches i've already made and doing very little modifications with the modular wirings in it. Maybe once you try this you will not feel the need to change wiring as much especially if you are using a host sequencer to put together a cohesive song rather than a jam session.

it's a combination of crazy and sometimes buggy modules and the modular interface

it's great to set up a single machine and pass it through three or four wacky-ass signal chains, connect to master, and just see what comes out.

so yeah basically do that in a vst. and i know bidule or reaktor could do it, but i like the way buzz is rough around the edges.