Ozone Knobs on the fritz

The keys are fine but three knobs are broken and it wouldn't hurt to obtain more knobs anyway... what's a mixer or controller surface to help use live? Don't necessarily need keys

i'm looking for a midi controller too, maybe some wise software synth headz will give advice

I recently sold all my midi gear and replaced it all with a Novation 49SL mkII. Dopest controller ever, but it'll cost ya. If you are looking for a control surface without keys definitely go for a Behringer BCF2000 or BCR2000 (one has faders + knobs, one is all knobs). I had a BCF2000, full sized motorized faders, 8 endless rotary encoders, buttons on top of the encoders, plus other assignable buttons. Thing was fucking ace, i picked it up of ebay for about 200 CAN.

The oxygen 8 is pretty much he same thing as the ozone, if you want to go that route.

novation nocturn!

it's fucking awesome and has automap which instantly maps to any synth/vst/plugin/whatever

super cheap as well

really can't get over how awesome this thing is

at 100 dollars canadian it's like the greatest steal ever

i might get a second one

my friend has the nocturn and it is really nice! automap ftw!

korg nanokontrol. because it's cheap as hell.

  On 10/8/2009 at 8:34 AM, chax said:

novation nocturn!

 

it's fucking awesome and has automap which instantly maps to any synth/vst/plugin/whatever

 

super cheap as well

 

So, if i'm using ableton live plus a 303-emulator plugin, which will Nocturn automap to? Without automap you just have to manually tell which knob what to do? I'm kind of surprised how expensive midi controllers are, it's not like it's a real synth or anything, and won't it become outdated at some point in the near future because of OS upgrades?

Nocturn does look cool.

  On 10/10/2009 at 1:59 AM, Retape said:

korg nanokontrol. because it's cheap as hell.

this looks like the one for me. anyone here use it? what are your thoughts?

  On 10/10/2009 at 10:18 PM, Hanratty said:

I'm kind of surprised how expensive midi controllers are

That was my first thought as well when I 'discovered' MIDI controllers. They're kind of expensive for what they do imo.

I'm looking for a new one with lots of knobs and faders. Not the nocturn though, unless its cheap, I don't want to deal with the background process I'd rather just use straight midi and manage mapping from inside host.

APC 40 from Akai. Bish bash bosh, done

  On 10/10/2009 at 10:18 PM, Hanratty said:

  On 10/8/2009 at 8:34 AM, chax said:

novation nocturn!

 

it's fucking awesome and has automap which instantly maps to any synth/vst/plugin/whatever

 

super cheap as well

 

 

 

So, if i'm using ableton live plus a 303-emulator plugin, which will Nocturn automap to? Without automap you just have to manually tell which knob what to do? I'm kind of surprised how expensive midi controllers are, it's not like it's a real synth or anything, and won't it become outdated at some point in the near future because of OS upgrades?

 

Nocturn does look cool.

  On 11/5/2009 at 11:12 PM, Bubba69 said:

I'm looking for a new one with lots of knobs and faders. Not the nocturn though, unless its cheap, I don't want to deal with the background process I'd rather just use straight midi and manage mapping from inside host.

the thing with the nocturn is that it will automatically map to whatever plugin is on the screen, or whatever you want to do using the automap software. the most powerful aspect of the device is the software, not the hardware. oither midi controllers can be extremely difficult to set up to get the knob to control exactly what you want it to, especially if you're using a lot of different plugins or are jumping around alot in the program. the nocturn is the easiest way to instantly control anything, and the time saved rather than manually mapping midi values is worth it.

  On 11/6/2009 at 1:55 AM, chax said:

  On 11/5/2009 at 11:12 PM, Bubba69 said:

I'm looking for a new one with lots of knobs and faders. Not the nocturn though, unless its cheap, I don't want to deal with the background process I'd rather just use straight midi and manage mapping from inside host.

 

the thing with the nocturn is that it will automatically map to whatever plugin is on the screen, or whatever you want to do using the automap software. the most powerful aspect of the device is the software, not the hardware. oither midi controllers can be extremely difficult to set up to get the knob to control exactly what you want it to, especially if you're using a lot of different plugins or are jumping around alot in the program. the nocturn is the easiest way to instantly control anything, and the time saved rather than manually mapping midi values is worth it.

You know the thing I was wondering about that is say I have a set up for a live show and I know what I want to tweak. Can I assign knobs on the nocturn to only control one thing and not whatever I have showing on the screen at the time? I should probably just go by my friends and play around with his, he has nothing but good things to say about it

i mean, that sounds cool, but it also just kind of sounds like a pain. you have to have a background process running and you have to wrap the plugins. Besides I find the midi learn features in my host extremely easy to use.

Yeah MIDI learn is normally a fairly simple process. The Nocturn looks alright for what it does, and it is fairly cheap, but will it be enough for what you need? It's not got faders or THAT many knobs. The APC is more expensive, but if you use Ableton then it doesn't get much better, esp with Max For Live coming out soon. I'm actually thinking of getting one today

  On 11/6/2009 at 11:12 AM, Solo Strike said:

Yeah MIDI learn is normally a fairly simple process. The Nocturn looks alright for what it does, and it is fairly cheap, but will it be enough for what you need? It's not got faders or THAT many knobs. The APC is more expensive, but if you use Ableton then it doesn't get much better, esp with Max For Live coming out soon. I'm actually thinking of getting one today

the thing is, is that you are constantly changing what every knob does with automap, you can cycle through everything automatically, save templates etc. it's touch sensitive so you just change what you want with the mouse, and then touch it, and it's set. can't get any easier than that. so its like an infinite number of knobs. maybe i'm not explaining the device and what it can do properly. it's basically a slimmed down keyboardless version of the novation zerl slmkII:

if you just want a ton of knobs and faders and want to set everything up manually maybe just get a bcr2000 or a bcf2000

or maybe even the M-audio UC 33e