Guest assegai Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 The keys are fine but three knobs are broken and it wouldn't hurt to obtain more knobs anyway... what's a mixer or controller surface to help use live? Don't necessarily need keys Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanratty Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 i'm looking for a midi controller too, maybe some wise software synth headz will give advice Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1138662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ryanmcallister Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I recently sold all my midi gear and replaced it all with a Novation 49SL mkII. Dopest controller ever, but it'll cost ya. If you are looking for a control surface without keys definitely go for a Behringer BCF2000 or BCR2000 (one has faders + knobs, one is all knobs). I had a BCF2000, full sized motorized faders, 8 endless rotary encoders, buttons on top of the encoders, plus other assignable buttons. Thing was fucking ace, i picked it up of ebay for about 200 CAN. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1138748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 The oxygen 8 is pretty much he same thing as the ozone, if you want to go that route. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1138754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chax Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 novation nocturn! it's fucking awesome and has automap which instantly maps to any synth/vst/plugin/whatever super cheap as well Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1138855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chax Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) really can't get over how awesome this thing is at 100 dollars canadian it's like the greatest steal ever i might get a second one Edited October 8, 2009 by chax Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1138859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hautlle Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 my friend has the nocturn and it is really nice! automap ftw! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hautlle's signature Hide all signatures Albums/EPs Free to DL or stream Newest stuff is on Soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1139219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retape Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) korg nanokontrol. because it's cheap as hell. Edited October 10, 2009 by Retape Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Retape's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1140242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanratty Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 On 10/8/2009 at 8:34 AM, chax said: novation nocturn! it's fucking awesome and has automap which instantly maps to any synth/vst/plugin/whatever super cheap as well So, if i'm using ableton live plus a 303-emulator plugin, which will Nocturn automap to? Without automap you just have to manually tell which knob what to do? I'm kind of surprised how expensive midi controllers are, it's not like it's a real synth or anything, and won't it become outdated at some point in the near future because of OS upgrades? Nocturn does look cool. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1140752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanratty Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 On 10/10/2009 at 1:59 AM, Retape said: korg nanokontrol. because it's cheap as hell. this looks like the one for me. anyone here use it? what are your thoughts? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1158589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berk Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 On 10/10/2009 at 10:18 PM, Hanratty said: I'm kind of surprised how expensive midi controllers are That was my first thought as well when I 'discovered' MIDI controllers. They're kind of expensive for what they do imo. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Berk's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1158591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'm looking for a new one with lots of knobs and faders. Not the nocturn though, unless its cheap, I don't want to deal with the background process I'd rather just use straight midi and manage mapping from inside host. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1159182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Strike Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 APC 40 from Akai. Bish bash bosh, done Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1159222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chax Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 On 10/10/2009 at 10:18 PM, Hanratty said: On 10/8/2009 at 8:34 AM, chax said: novation nocturn! it's fucking awesome and has automap which instantly maps to any synth/vst/plugin/whatever super cheap as well So, if i'm using ableton live plus a 303-emulator plugin, which will Nocturn automap to? Without automap you just have to manually tell which knob what to do? I'm kind of surprised how expensive midi controllers are, it's not like it's a real synth or anything, and won't it become outdated at some point in the near future because of OS upgrades? Nocturn does look cool. On 11/5/2009 at 11:12 PM, Bubba69 said: I'm looking for a new one with lots of knobs and faders. Not the nocturn though, unless its cheap, I don't want to deal with the background process I'd rather just use straight midi and manage mapping from inside host. the thing with the nocturn is that it will automatically map to whatever plugin is on the screen, or whatever you want to do using the automap software. the most powerful aspect of the device is the software, not the hardware. oither midi controllers can be extremely difficult to set up to get the knob to control exactly what you want it to, especially if you're using a lot of different plugins or are jumping around alot in the program. the nocturn is the easiest way to instantly control anything, and the time saved rather than manually mapping midi values is worth it. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1159302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hautlle Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 On 11/6/2009 at 1:55 AM, chax said: On 11/5/2009 at 11:12 PM, Bubba69 said: I'm looking for a new one with lots of knobs and faders. Not the nocturn though, unless its cheap, I don't want to deal with the background process I'd rather just use straight midi and manage mapping from inside host. the thing with the nocturn is that it will automatically map to whatever plugin is on the screen, or whatever you want to do using the automap software. the most powerful aspect of the device is the software, not the hardware. oither midi controllers can be extremely difficult to set up to get the knob to control exactly what you want it to, especially if you're using a lot of different plugins or are jumping around alot in the program. the nocturn is the easiest way to instantly control anything, and the time saved rather than manually mapping midi values is worth it. You know the thing I was wondering about that is say I have a set up for a live show and I know what I want to tweak. Can I assign knobs on the nocturn to only control one thing and not whatever I have showing on the screen at the time? I should probably just go by my friends and play around with his, he has nothing but good things to say about it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hautlle's signature Hide all signatures Albums/EPs Free to DL or stream Newest stuff is on Soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1159421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 i mean, that sounds cool, but it also just kind of sounds like a pain. you have to have a background process running and you have to wrap the plugins. Besides I find the midi learn features in my host extremely easy to use. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1159502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Strike Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Yeah MIDI learn is normally a fairly simple process. The Nocturn looks alright for what it does, and it is fairly cheap, but will it be enough for what you need? It's not got faders or THAT many knobs. The APC is more expensive, but if you use Ableton then it doesn't get much better, esp with Max For Live coming out soon. I'm actually thinking of getting one today Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1159537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chax Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) On 11/6/2009 at 11:12 AM, Solo Strike said: Yeah MIDI learn is normally a fairly simple process. The Nocturn looks alright for what it does, and it is fairly cheap, but will it be enough for what you need? It's not got faders or THAT many knobs. The APC is more expensive, but if you use Ableton then it doesn't get much better, esp with Max For Live coming out soon. I'm actually thinking of getting one today the thing is, is that you are constantly changing what every knob does with automap, you can cycle through everything automatically, save templates etc. it's touch sensitive so you just change what you want with the mouse, and then touch it, and it's set. can't get any easier than that. so its like an infinite number of knobs. maybe i'm not explaining the device and what it can do properly. it's basically a slimmed down keyboardless version of the novation zerl slmkII: if you just want a ton of knobs and faders and want to set everything up manually maybe just get a bcr2000 or a bcf2000 or maybe even the M-audio UC 33e Edited November 7, 2009 by chax Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/49571-ozone-knobs-on-the-fritz/#findComment-1160355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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