zazen Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) OK, so I know all the stuff about Sony winning whoever won, and all that, but this is still pretty impressive: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20091220/tuk-uk-britain-charts-fa6b408.html Having a Christmas No 1 is a big deal in the UK, they all go down in history basically. So this is quite an interesting chapter in the history of the internet, in the UK at least. X-Factor based Simon Cowell propelled songs have been Christmas no 1 here for the last 4 years. The bookies lost out big time as well: Quote "We were of the opinion that the X Factor was unbeatable but it looks like we will be proved wrong," said Rupert Adam, spokesman for bookmaker William Hill, said before the chart was announced. "The industry will certainly be paying out a six figure sum, perhaps seven." Some chap from Metafilter can explain it to those of you in the States better than I can: Quote ...Well, yes. But when hippybear said "in Britain having the Christman No. 1 is some kind of magic which is hard to understand unless you live there. The idea that there is enough support for this idea to actually take down the (basically pre-selected) pap which was "supposed" to win means something, I think," he's basically spot on. The Christmas number one is – for anyone under about the age of 45, and who has even a passing interest in British culture – so bound up with Christmas itself in a way that probably seems a bit weird to Americans (or to many other nationalities, for that matter). Maybe this is because Britain is a smaller country, with a much more centralised set of media organisations, and hence a much more strictly defined/controlled set of cultural signifiers that surround Christmas. People invest in the Christmas number one because – less so for kids now, but certainly for two or three generations of their older siblings/parents – it's part of Christmas in the same way that turkey, sneering at the Queen's speech, and falling asleep in front of another showing of The Great Escape is. I'm not sure if there's an American equivalent; the closest thing I can think of off the cuff is the importance people in the US place on the half time performances and big new ads at the Superbowl – the latter of which, for us in the UK, probably seems as odd a cultural construct to get exicted about as the Christmas number one does to you. In both cases, it isn't about the things in themselves – the ads or the number one song – it's about the ways in which both of them are part of a shared cultural experience which has, for better or worse, helped define a country's interaction with that one event, and what that means to people. Edited December 20, 2009 by zazen Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ezkerraldean Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 lol simon cowell's a twat but who gives a fuck what's number 1 anyway in all honesty lol Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 i think its kinda cool. i mean the fact christmas number 1 has the lyrics, fuck you i wont do what you tell me, over and over again is mildly interesting. but yeah, i dont exactly sit up at night wondering what christmas number 1 is. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazen Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I dont care about Number Ones normally, but this is a bit more significant, being social media based. and also because we got a very sweary song to Christmas No 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 i literally live for christmas no.1 - the rest of the year is awful Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 were you routing for simon cowell or for the internet rambo? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 soo hungover but I tried to understand this.... RATM xmas album... top of the UK billboards??? what?? im soo confused Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Simon Cowell of course 1. He's really handsome 2. He's cool and i like him having money 3. Christmas 4. Have you noticed how good his posture is 5. I don't want him to be depressed 6. He could beat up Zach de la rocha if he wanted but he wont because he's so laid back Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Salads Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 lol that's sweet. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 plus, just look at his expression. its permanently full of the pure goodwill and warmth that only success can bring you. he brings happiness to millions. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazen Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) On 12/20/2009 at 10:12 PM, Blanket Fort Collapse said: soo hungover but I tried to understand this.... RATM xmas album... top of the UK billboards??? what?? im soo confused A Facebook group launched a campaign to get everyone to download copies of RATMs 1992 single 'Killing In The Name', in order to beat Simon Cowells chosen one to the top of the UK singles chart. The chorus of said single is "Fuck you, I wont do what you tell me", which I think is why it was chosen. They broke all kinds of records (first ever download-only no 1, largest downloads of a single track in a week etc) and won. For comparison, here are the Christmas No 1s in the UK for the last 10 years: 2000 Bob The Builder "Can We Fix It?" 2001 Robbie Williams & Nicole Kidman "Somethin' Stupid" 2002 Girls Aloud "Sound of the Underground" 2003 Michael Andrews & Gary Jules "Mad World" 2004 Band Aid 20 "Do They Know It's Christmas?" 2005 Shayne Ward "That's My Goal" 2006 Leona Lewis "A Moment Like This" 2007 Leon Jackson "When You Believe" 2008 Alexandra Burke "Hallelujah" 2009 Rage Against the Machine "Killing in the Name" Edited December 20, 2009 by zazen Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 And think of it this way - we are all pricks and he's amazing Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiiQPqmYE1A Fuck you we won't do what you tell me except saying Simon Cowels a sleezy salesman of shite cos he's quite important to the record company thats making us more money than the last time this single was released. The internet has made the 'po(o)p' charts obsolete hence the axing of Top of the Pop's and Mr Cowell has just exploited the left over mass market of clueless sheep by making shite seem less like shite by comparing it with utter shite. 'Killing in the Name of' had meaning when it first came out but at the end of the day its all just recycled shite from a big shitty corporation on both sides of a shite curtain. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 For serious though, i love how the internet gets things done that would be almost impossible otherwise. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 its easy to work out though, most years almost no-one except 14 year old girls give a shite and buy singles, one year a bit of fun comes along and loads of people who havent bought one single in the last decade pay 29p to have a laugh. the same amount of 14 year old girls still probably bought the x-factor single. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazen Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) On 12/20/2009 at 10:30 PM, messiaen said: its easy to work out though, most years almost no-one except 14 year old girls give a shite and buy singles, one year a bit of fun comes along and loads of people who havent bought one single in the last decade pay 29p to have a laugh. the same amount of 14 year old girls still probably bought the x-factor single. yeah - I think RATM sold 500,000 to the X-Factors 450,000 - thats still a massive number of X-factor sales (the 14 year old girls must have also mobilised all their troops). In a normal Christmas year, 450,000 sales would have secured the number one slot by miles. So, Sony are the big winners here. But the Facebook group also raised a load of money for a homeless charity. Overall, I think this is good news. But its obviously not the end of the x-factor industry or a huge blow against capitalism or anything. Its a bit of fun and a sweary song going down in history. Edited December 20, 2009 by zazen Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazen Posted December 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 I'm not sure if it still happens, but the BBC used to play the Christmas No 1 on telly at lunchtime on Christmas day, before or after the Queens Speech. It'll be fun if RATM get to play this year, while I'm working my way through christmas dinner. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 the whole thing would have been funnier if the internet had picked an anal cunt song or something Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylonbitch Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 (edited) cheryl cole is angry. record label win, you lose. (i bought it too) i bet cowell et al got a payoff. they don't give a fuck about joe nobody. Edited December 20, 2009 by loganfive Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide pylonbitch's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
futureimage Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Rant Against. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide futureimage's signature Hide all signatures New Future Image album, Definite Complex, out now!FUTURE IMAGE RECORDS Future Image Definite ComplexIntelligent Dasein Sound Experiments #1papertiger harmonizing the seamsP/R/P/E The Speed of RevolutionWilliam S. Braintree This is StoryKaleid Machines Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 "Bookmakers had believed that the popularity of the show, with some 20 million viewers tuning in to see McElderry win last week, would mean his debut single, a cover of a song by American Miley Cyrus, would come out on top." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WTF BRITAIN GODDAMN Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimbob Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Well i didn't end up shelling out £0.50 for an mp3 but it turns out everyone else had me covered. Am looking forward to Cowell's reaction in the press this week, and NO MORE EGGS FACTOR on the TV thankyou internets Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 simon cowell has already released a statement saying he thinks it was good fun and that he applauds ratm. i read that anyway. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rambo Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 shut your mouth about simon imho Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/51746-rage-against-the-machine-christmas-no-1-in-uk/#findComment-1193642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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