music players

i want to get rid of iTunes and find a nice player for mac that lets me:

- play FLAC and WAV and shit

- manage music and libraries manually, like with folders for artists and folders for albums, etc

- manually add stuff to my ipod (i know other apps like Songbird can do it so i think it's possible without itunes)

- have some coolio spectrograph visualization shit as a bonus

what are some good music players? Im looking at songbird but its kinda cheesy and commercial and looks basically just like itunes.

foobar

except idk how to use it to put stuff on your ipod

foobar's sweet but it's windows only :(

mac please

  On 12/24/2009 at 7:53 PM, iamabe said:

- manually add stuff to my ipod (i know other apps like Songbird can do it so i think it's possible without itunes)

what do you mean by "manually"?

if you mean just adding whatever tracks you want on the iPod, without it just automatically syncing certain playlists, you've always been able to do that.

Winamp with Milkdrop for visuals

media monkey

I like the way iTunes organizes everything

  On 12/30/2009 at 2:07 AM, Fishtank said:

I like the way iTunes organizes everything

same

itunes library management gets to be a hassle because i keep some music on my external, and I can't tell what's missing when I don't have my external until I actually try to play it in itunes and get a missing music warning. Id like a player like foobar that doesn't compile a library, but instead just lets you "manually" browse your music in folders, so you can see what you actually have with you on your hard drive, instead of in a library file that doesnt make apparent what music you have on what drives. dig?

  On 12/28/2009 at 9:34 PM, Spore said:

media monkey

I love the monkey... it's my main source for listening/organizing/tagging... I still leave EAC up to ripping and encoding but MM can encode in all the formats.

i was 100% a foobar man, but it just today randomly reset and i lost my layout (looked exactly like itunes but lofi and low on memory, was best thing ever).

does anyone have any good guides/websites i can use to get my foobar usable again. itunes is too much a memory hog.

ahh. just got my old setup back. good to know it only takes a minute to fix. hardly any memory usages. ahhhh:)

what are you guys running that itunes uses too much memory? maybe you need more memory? its almost 2010 and ram is cheap. i dont know, ive never ha an issue with tunes. i think its great

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i play music. im pretty cool.

I've settled with Songbird since switching to a Macbook and losing Foobar. It's like the Firefox of media players in that you can download tons of mainly shit, but useful add-ons.

Screen shot spoilered for size.

Does anyone know of a Itunes replacement that can manage video also? Needs to be Mac also...

Songbird is actually based on the same code as Firefox. What this means is that every time you open firefox and songbird you're opening up two instances of the gecko codebase. I tried songbird and found it to be bloated (much like iTunes is on windows) and junky. As far as I'm concerned, on the Mac, iTunes is just about perfect.

  On 1/3/2010 at 3:28 AM, chenGOD said:

Songbird is actually based on the same code as Firefox. What this means is that every time you open firefox and songbird you're opening up two instances of the gecko codebase. I tried songbird and found it to be bloated (much like iTunes is on windows) and junky. As far as I'm concerned, on the Mac, iTunes is just about perfect.

My issues with itunes is it lack of support for other formats, ogg, flac, wmv, avi etc...

Video aside, I was using mediamonkey for audio but it is PC only.

  On 12/28/2009 at 12:55 PM, soundwave said:

Winamp with Milkdrop for visuals

THIS, and the Preamp feature can actually make some music sound a lot better.