Nerd question regarding operating systems

Despite the success of installing pretty much everything I want under OS X (hackintosh), I'm not fully happy (mouse feels wrong, fonts are way too big, navigating my way around windows is awkward, etc). Some things bug me so much that I'm considering going back to windows, with my new ram and processor. Trouble is I have 4gb ram and my love/hate relationship between XP has to pass. I have to move onto 64bit to utilise my ram.

Clearly XP 32bit is out of the picture, as is vista.

So the options left are windows 7, 32bit/64bit and xp 64bit. I dread vista and I dislike windows 7 because it reminds me of it. Clearly I've spent too much time on computers and I'm fucking fussy when it comes to operating systems using too much ram.

Any of you experience windows 7? Is is a fiery beast but once you've given it a hard kick in the face it behaves? Can I just stick a windows xp transformation pack on the fucker and call it a day?

Cheers!

I have windows 7 64-bit running 8gb of ram (motherboards max) and so far i have no problems with the operating system, didn't even have to install drivers for most things as windows found them for me with no haste, and i jumped from xp to windows 7 and i think i am now preferring windows 7 over xp

and with you "utilising" your RAM, 32bit can see 3.25gb and if you have 4gb going to 64bit your not going to see much difference at all

Initially I would say your right in my situation, but thinking about it - I really do need as much as possible.

What are the positives and negatives of windows 7? (apart from the visual side looking like total utter shit)

I use it at work, about 8-10 hours every day. It's the best Windows version you can get but it's still a piece of shit. I've been having a lot of explorer related slow-downs lately. Way too many tiny frustrations that were in Windows Vista and didn't get fixed. What's worse is to know I'm stuck with all this crap until Win 8. (and probably much, much longer) It's making me so desperate I've spent days and days getting Adobe software to work in Wine.

Anyway, is it better than Vista? Yeah but not as much as a lot of people try and make you believe.

I have Win7 64 bit 4gigs of RAM

I like it fine, I have had a few problems though with external devices like my tablet and sound card

and I've had it crash 5 times since I got it which is was less than XP

Wow, how depressing.

Perhaps the way forward is to cut it down using nlite. I dislike a few things about osx but some of the good things it does do is it doesn't crash/hangup etc and it's not even running on the right hardware. It seems 5x faster loading applications but this could be due to the 64bit side.

I think I'll have the best of both worlds. For audio related stuff I'll stick to OS X and as for work shit I'll use windows 7.

Yeah I'm happy with that and I'll use separate hard drives so one can't fuck with the other.

Ego - do you prefer xp over windows 7?

i much prefer 7 (64bit) to XP. I don't do much that's fancy but do have a lot of peripherals which work pretty seamlessly.

The only problems I've had with 7 are

1. black screen requiring nothing more than re-boot (has happened 3 times since early november)

2. sometimes when computer has been inactive for a couple of hours or so the taskbar doesn't respond for about 60 seconds when you unsleep (doesn't do this every time it sleeps, just sometimes).

it's pretty good with memory, fast, and fairly intuitive (finding drivers for you etc.)

i recently threw windows 7 32bit on my laptop (xp on my desktop) to see for myself what it would have to offer. personally, the only real disadvantage i have experienced is the 'hand-hold' development. it feels like the computer is trying to make my life easier by guessing what i'm trying to achieve and leading me down the path to do so. the only problem is the options i'm actually looking for are hidden away in some dark corner i'll never find unless i sift through a million different possibilities. a small portion is not knowing a new os, but a lot of it is an operating system trying to hold my dick while i piss. the set up of libraries is also a piss off. i liked xp for it's "here you go, now i'm not doing shit all" appeal; putting control in my hands. and yeah, windows 7 looks like fish aqua shit by default but i use the windows classic theme.

your best bet is probably your separate drive idea.

  On 1/20/2010 at 1:04 AM, blackdust said:

I have windows 7 64-bit running 8gb of ram (motherboards max) and so far i have no problems with the operating system, didn't even have to install drivers for most things as windows found them for me with no haste

this little bit of 'convince' has only rendered a lot of my devices useless; or at least forces me to sift through the hassle of device manager and reinstalling/deleting them myself. i liked it better when nothing worked until i had to install the drivers i wanted for devices.

I've been using win 7 for awhile with no real issues. alot smoother than vista, less hardware compatibility issues, driver issues etc. I've put fairly heavy load on it as well and not had any instability/crashes. I've heard of alot of people using Server 2008 as a desktop OS as well, perhaps give that a shot if you're looking for something a little different.

Fred, should we tackle this?

had an issue like this 4 months ago, the user wanted to know if a more viable option for downloading multi-click password encryption was available on the new linux bios. so i'll tell you what i pretty much told him: if you value frequent intrastat trans-application modulations over ease of bit reproduction, then by all means, go with the 386. just know where your priorities are. for example, if I'm hot booting my motherboard on a 900, then i'm going to want a lower threshhold for megahertz clocking. conversely, if i've been running the same config for two weeks straight, it's going to be high time i dismount the user profile and retool any lingering manifold violations. basically, if you want VGA, you're going to have to sacrifice basic wireless capability with any of the next gen spell checkers. a good source for further reading that will undoubtedly help you chose the best option is here: hht\\w.aol.geocities\options\run\cyberspace.blimp

lol@round 2

edit: do the external drive thread now

  On 1/20/2010 at 1:45 AM, joshier said:

Ego - do you prefer xp over windows 7?

No. XP is almost 10 years old. Lacking 64-bit support, no indexed search and no networking profiles are some of the main reasons I wouldn't go back. Win7 is not bad at performance or stability compared to XP.

create a folder anywhere with the name GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}

and it will contain all control panel options in one place.

Been using W7 since May, not had a single issue. Drivers have never been an issue.

I've installed W7 seperately on a 4 year old machine previously running XP, all software worked fine and it ran faster than XP. 7 is recommended.

Look at all the nerds! Har Har Har

lol using computers is sad

  On 1/20/2010 at 7:33 AM, Fred McGriff said:

had an issue like this 4 months ago, the user wanted to know if a more viable option for downloading multi-click password encryption was available on the new linux bios. so i'll tell you what i pretty much told him: if you value frequent intrastat trans-application modulations over ease of bit reproduction, then by all means, go with the 386. just know where your priorities are. for example, if I'm hot booting my motherboard on a 900, then i'm going to want a lower threshhold for megahertz clocking. conversely, if i've been running the same config for two weeks straight, it's going to be high time i dismount the user profile and retool any lingering manifold violations. basically, if you want VGA, you're going to have to sacrifice basic wireless capability with any of the next gen spell checkers. a good source for further reading that will undoubtedly help you chose the best option is here: hht\\w.aol.geocities\options\run\cyberspace.blimp

I love it when you talk IT!

  On 1/20/2010 at 11:27 AM, Obel said:

lol using computers is sad

we're all so fucking pathetic, damn jocks and their fancy football skills, getting all the girls

oh well, I just download the new coen brothers film on DVD so fuck life. I got free videos yo, fuck football

  On 1/20/2010 at 11:32 AM, impakt said:

  On 1/20/2010 at 7:33 AM, Fred McGriff said:

had an issue like this 4 months ago, the user wanted to know if a more viable option for downloading multi-click password encryption was available on the new linux bios. so i'll tell you what i pretty much told him: if you value frequent intrastat trans-application modulations over ease of bit reproduction, then by all means, go with the 386. just know where your priorities are. for example, if I'm hot booting my motherboard on a 900, then i'm going to want a lower threshhold for megahertz clocking. conversely, if i've been running the same config for two weeks straight, it's going to be high time i dismount the user profile and retool any lingering manifold violations. basically, if you want VGA, you're going to have to sacrifice basic wireless capability with any of the next gen spell checkers. a good source for further reading that will undoubtedly help you chose the best option is here: hht\\w.aol.geocities\options\run\cyberspace.blimp

 

I love it when you talk IT!

The funny thing is I've used this kind of bullshit jargon before on clients to answer issue fix questions they wouldn't have understood anyway. I'm going to start compiling Freds for the sake of reference!

  On 1/20/2010 at 11:35 AM, karmakramer said:

  On 1/20/2010 at 11:27 AM, Obel said:

lol using computers is sad

 

we're all so fucking pathetic, damn jocks and their fancy football skills, getting all the girls

 

oh well, I just download the new coen brothers film on DVD so fuck life. I got free videos yo, fuck football

FUCK IT ALLLL! I AM A MAAAAANNN YOU SEE!? YOU SEEEE!?

in my experience, choice of operating system depends on a few personal factors that you are going to have to weigh against one another:

1. what are you using the computer for mostly? games? internet applications? error processing? if you're a multi use kind of user, then you want to make sure you pick the platform that covers the broadest range encryption techniques. that means taking the time to research how the OS handles and prioritizes various icon functions, whether it has an indexed recycle bin, and whether you can view hidden file structures in safe mode or in java hot script.

2. how much time will the machine be plugged in and what kind of power strip will you be using? the newer OS's are pretty taxing on power and you'll need p-strip that can handle heat of that kind of raw distribution. especially if you're going to have multiple devices simultaneously using juice, like a monitor, a microwave, a practice amp and your nintendo. if you're not using a strip that can handle a spike in power, you'll find that spreadsheets will cross index at an unacceptable rate and your adobe will hotlink every rss feed that you backup. you don't need that mess unless you're intentionally setting it up (like if you're routinely handling large amounts of terrabyte sync relays).

3. speaking of sync relays, it's a good idea to know how often you're going to need backup those indices. ideally, once a month should be more than sufficient. but some OS's have a default backup scheme that will run a daily sector scan, seriously clogging your RAM drives and resulting in poor IDE performance. Don't like having to scroll through multiple task bars just to read your e-mail? you'll find yourself doing this all the time if you let this happen.

4. finally, a lot of people overlook this, but you shouldn't run anything past Windows 95 (the equivalent of Snow Leopard VII for mac users) without a fan speed of at least 9. anything less than this and your hard drive will ultimately fail upon kernel access. it won't happen overnight though, so you'll be lulled into thinking that your ISP receptors can handle the load. That's when you'll wake up one morning to find your port extensions blown, your IRC password changed, and the biggest vector data jumble you've ever seen.

So do your research and you'll be fine. The newest windows is pretty popular, but don't miss looking into the other available formats. RealPlayer 7 is popular among college kids. Texas Instruments is supposed to be releasing a new cross platform compatible system that looks pretty promising. It alls depends on your needs and your experience.

ROFL

quality comedy bullshit here!

lol definitely, my stomach hurts now

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That's when you'll wake up one morning to find your port extensions blown, your IRC password changed, and the biggest vector data jumble you've ever seen.

  On 1/20/2010 at 1:11 PM, LOL Alzado said:

in my experience, choice of operating system depends on a few personal factors that you are going to have to weigh against one another:

 

1. what are you using the computer for mostly? games? internet applications? error processing? if you're a multi use kind of user, then you want to make sure you pick the platform that covers the broadest range encryption techniques. that means taking the time to research how the OS handles and prioritizes various icon functions, whether it has an indexed recycle bin, and whether you can view hidden file structures in safe mode or in java hot script.

 

2. how much time will the machine be plugged in and what kind of power strip will you be using? the newer OS's are pretty taxing on power and you'll need p-strip that can handle heat of that kind of raw distribution. especially if you're going to have multiple devices simultaneously using juice, like a monitor, a microwave, a practice amp and your nintendo. if you're not using a strip that can handle a spike in power, you'll find that spreadsheets will cross index at an unacceptable rate and your adobe will hotlink every rss feed that you backup. you don't need that mess unless you're intentionally setting it up (like if you're routinely handling large amounts of terrabyte sync relays).

 

3. speaking of sync relays, it's a good idea to know how often you're going to need backup those indices. ideally, once a month should be more than sufficient. but some OS's have a default backup scheme that will run a daily sector scan, seriously clogging your RAM drives and resulting in poor IDE performance. Don't like having to scroll through multiple task bars just to read your e-mail? you'll find yourself doing this all the time if you let this happen.

 

4. finally, a lot of people overlook this, but you shouldn't run anything past Windows 95 (the equivalent of Snow Leopard VII for mac users) without a fan speed of at least 9. anything less than this and your hard drive will ultimately fail upon kernel access. it won't happen overnight though, so you'll be lulled into thinking that your ISP receptors can handle the load. That's when you'll wake up one morning to find your port extensions blown, your IRC password changed, and the biggest vector data jumble you've ever seen.

 

So do your research and you'll be fine. The newest windows is pretty popular, but don't miss looking into the other available formats. RealPlayer 7 is popular among college kids. Texas Instruments is supposed to be releasing a new cross platform compatible system that looks pretty promising. It alls depends on your needs and your experience.

nail, meet head. and just to elaborate, if you are primarily an error processing style of user, then go ahead and spend the extra cash on a solid XP manifold. peace of mind when it comes to vector arrays is worth a few hundred bucks a month if you get the extended crash protector that comes with it. when you're running 7 or 8 emails at the same time, you'll undoubtedly need a RAM sentry to pick up the extra IP parsing, and what the manifold gives you is a constant packet burst of command prompt injectors when the dos shell is getting drained. you'll notice a bell curve matrix printout if you have legacy HP printercables, which can be tedious, but I just stash mine in a locked storage cabinet (out of sight, out of mind). ultimately if you can count on one hand the number of chip romulators you've salvaged in the past decade, then you obviously are going to value a solid workhorse manifold that's going to regulate any unwarranted replication artifacts and create (automatically is the default) wingding DLLs to quarantine whatever offending parsecs it finds. kind of a no-brainer.