looking to try to get into noise

i don't have any idea where to start; the furthest i've gone with noise is japanese noise-rock a la boredoms

i thought about downloading the merzbox but i think i may want more variety than can be got from just one artist

anyone have any suggestions? Awepittance i know you like zoviet france i've been meaning to check them out

are they noise? they have a big discography and i am a completist so i might not want to start what i can't finish

anyway just list some important noise artists or albums and i may find something that i want to investigate plz

The harshest noise I've heard is Pulse Demon by Merzbow

The best noise I've heard is 1930 by Merzbow

that's all the noise I've listened to

  On 1/23/2010 at 9:58 PM, Capsaicin said:

The harshest noise I've heard is Pulse Demon by Merzbow

 

The best noise I've heard is 1930 by Merzbow

 

that's all the noise I've listened to

i used to have 1930 but i think i buh-leeted it or it got lost when i couldn't afford to recover my hard drive

i posted some noise album recommendations for beginniners in the other thread you might want to check out

but my favorite noise artists are : Pain Jerk, Merzbow, Masonna, Aube, CCCC i don't really like anything outside of japan when it comes to power electronics hard shit

Zoviet France isn't really noise, i would classify them more as ambient but coming from a harsh 2nd wave industrial background

these...

C.C.C.C. & Nocturnal Emissions - The Beauty Of Pollution

C.C.C.C. - Love & Noise

Merzbow - Music For Bondage Performance

Aube - Feed the Fishes

Aube - Cardiac Strain

Merzbow - Electric Salad

Shawn Greenlee/Pleasurehorse has a netlabel with some Merzbow-ish stuff http://iynges.02909.com/

For stuff that's kind of rock/noise check out Load Records, especially Lightning Bolt and Mindflayer

rhythmic stuff that is more abstract - Black Dice, Astral Social Club

Forcefield - Lord of the Rings Modulator is totally legit weirdness. A guy called Casper Electronics used to help them make gear, I think, he has a free album which is alright but maybe a little cheesy.

KK Null - I don't have any yet but the previews sound sweet

Russell Haswell and Florian Hecker for yer idm approved noise

Khate or Axolotl for some ambient noise type stuff

Sub Rosa Noise & Electronic compilations for older people that your neighbors will think are Merzbow

oh yeah, also, this compilation has some interesting stuff and I got it for 66 cents on amazon!

Pulse Demon by Merzbow is the best harsh noise album I know of.

Go for And Still, Wanting or Pleasure Ground by Prurient for more cinematic noise.

John Wiese's Soft Punk is a good experimental harsh noise album.

masonna is some evil shit

(posting again because the board won't let me edit)

Birth Death Experiences by Whitehouse is a good power electronic record.

Gamelan Into The Mink Supernatural by The Psychic Paramount is a really good obscure noise rock album that alternates between harsh intrumental noise rock and pure melodic noise.

Gnaw Their Tongues are apparently a good fusion of harsh noise and black metal but I'm not an expert on them.

i still find it fascinating people can enjoy this music as anything more than a, ''woah this sounds fucking horrible lol''sort of way. says so much to me about the immense variation in what people like to listen to.

Almost everyone who listens to music has an appreciation of texture. It's just a question of being able to forgo melody and rhythm and concentrate purely on texture and structure.

Some ambient music is based entirely on texture. The only real difference that noise has to ambient is that it attempts to go straight for the most painful and unpleasant sound possible.

I would agree that admiring the harshness of the noise is a facet of the enjoyment; but the best noise artists are also masters of texture, structure and phrasing.

i started with merzbow's "merzzow" which is very good indeed. some tracks have a kinda semblance of melody and rhythm which got me started and then i got into the less conventional stuff on there too. his split with boris "sun baked snow cave" is also awesome though very long

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mind5HtIB_s

  On 1/23/2010 at 10:52 PM, messiaen said:

i still find it fascinating people can enjoy this music as anything more than a, ''woah this sounds fucking horrible lol''sort of way. says so much to me about the immense variation in what people like to listen to.

i think the same about avantgarde piano music

edit: i mean the extremely atonal stuff

i anger a lot of my more goth friends by saying messiaen's above statement when referring to 'death-folk' music like Current 93 or Death in June, i cannot understand how its appreciated beyond irony/parody

  On 1/24/2010 at 1:22 AM, Awepittance said:

i anger a lot of my more goth friends by saying messiaen's above statement when referring to 'death-folk' music like Current 93 or Death in June, i cannot understand how its appreciated beyond irony/parody

lol, yeah i never really understood death in june. one of my friends is a big fan, and writes songs in a similar style (that i record, and play some guitar parts on).

thanks to all for the recommendations i plan to look into a lot of them but i found out something interesting

i d/led merzbox and while i expected not to like it because of the lack of beats i was pleasantly surprised

i've just been skimming tracks since i'm about to go to bed but i really like what i'm hearing so far beats or not

so this opens up a new vista for me whereas i had never given noise a chance before really, may try ambient next

actually i just wanted to pre-inure myself to this "shit" since i fear i may end up in guantanamo bay one day lol

listen to hexspeak.

  On 1/24/2010 at 3:27 AM, IRARI said:

actually i just wanted to pre-inure myself to this "shit" since i fear i may end up in guantanamo bay one day lol

did you do know they were supposed to close it yesterday? i think they did.

Whoa!

  On 1/23/2010 at 11:24 PM, elliotjking said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mind5HtIB_s

  On 1/24/2010 at 3:49 AM, sneaksta303 said:

  On 1/24/2010 at 3:27 AM, IRARI said:

actually i just wanted to pre-inure myself to this "shit" since i fear i may end up in guantanamo bay one day lol

 

did you do know they were supposed to close it yesterday? i think they did.

plus the military down there is notorious for playing death metal music at high volumes for long stretches as a form of audio torture to inmates, they might get smarter and start using Whitehouse instead

  On 1/23/2010 at 9:58 PM, Capsaicin said:

The harshest noise I've heard is Pulse Demon by Merzbow

Pulse Demon as i said in the other thread was my introduction to noise. I think it's a great record. It took me a while to find stuff as unrelenting as Pulse Demon but probably the closest contender is Pain Jerk, his stuff from around the same era 94-99 is almost harsher than Pulse Demon if you can imagine that.

i saw this in the cassette bin of Ameoba a while back and i had to buy it -

Pain Jerk - Great Invisible Crashing 1996

I lost my copy a long time ago but i remember thinking it was really extreme at the time for a tape to come with a mini hacksaw

'Sketches For Biotech Research' by Eugene Thacker

  On 1/24/2010 at 5:52 AM, Awepittance said:

Pulse Demon as i said in the other thread was my introduction to noise. I think it's a great record. It took me a while to find stuff as unrelenting as Pulse Demon but probably the closest contender is Pain Jerk, his stuff from around the same era 94-99 is almost harsher than Pulse Demon if you can imagine that.

i find it really bizarre when noise is just 100% intense all the time, and never has any 'breakdowns' etc.. just like with extreme metal, you kinda lose track of how intense it is if there's no contrast, at least i do anyway. i get really bored with constant harsh noise.

that said though, i do love stuff like pita and hecker. but that's a different kind of noise to say, the stuff on pulse demon or 1930.

i think you would be surprised about how varied Merzbow's output is. Check out his LP 'electric salad' or 'music for bondage performance' . Electric salad is more on the noise end of the spectrum but its not as much white noise as it is lots of distorted EMS synth bursts through a lot of effects. Reminds me more of some of Heckers stuff than it does Pulse Demon. The bondage one is pretty ambient overall with a definite noisey theme. I'm sure some of this makes an appearance in the merzbow but some of his releases pre 1990 are really dirgy slow japanese rock metal.

there is admittedly a lot of bad pisstakish Merzbow to sift through.