Guest Helper ET Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 so i read the book in junior high. just watched the movie. it takes a little while to get good, but then theyre fucking going wild and its chaos and awesome problem is, the ending is gay. they should have just let the kids exist there until they all killed each other. would have made for a much better movie that is all Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conor74 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I think it's all an allegory. What the book is really about is animals running a farm, and the differing ideas of pigs and horses on how best to do so. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 which version? old black & white one or new americanised shit one? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 the book and the film are classics. is there a hollywood fuckup one? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) certainly is - all the kids in it are amercian Edited January 27, 2010 by BCM Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BCM's signature Hide all signatures Bandcamp | Spotify | SoundCloud | Amazon | Apple Music | YouTube | YouTube Music | Deezer | Google Play Music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conor74 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 And now I think of it, not only is it an allegory for pigs and donkeys running a farm, that in turn is an allegory for women having sex with farmyard animals. Come on, anyone who remembers the 80s remembers that... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) The '63 version is a great film. Essential reading for any child between the ages of 10 and 14. Torrent Edited January 27, 2010 by Gary C Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ZeroHour Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 the 2 best parts in both movies is piggys death and im pretty sure that the book is an allegory about the innate human savagery within all of us, and the fact that through social conditioning it is kept hidden away Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaproy Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 The 1963 Black and White Version is class! Well worth a watch. Favourite quote: "We're not savages, we're English. And, the English are the best are everything!" Always thought that would make a good sample for some reason, bit heavy on the patriotism though. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Actually, there is most definitely room for a solid re-working of this story. Nothing Hollywood-ised in particular, but maybe have the kids being evacuated from Israel or another modern warring region (Korea?). Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 On 1/27/2010 at 5:26 PM, Gary C said: Actually, there is most definitely room for a solid re-working of this story. Nothing Hollywood-ised in particular, but maybe have the kids being evacuated from Israel or another modern warring region (Korea?). like battle royale? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 There are similarities, but I was thinking of something more about politics and the construction of human civilisation rather than a death-game. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltoi Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 well that's animal farm then innit Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide keltoi's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest beatfanatic Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 read the book and watched the movie (black and white version) in high school. I loved it. During the first season, the abc show Lost seemed like an adult version of Lord of the flies. It still probably is. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaen Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 i fell in love with the book back in school and also the old black and white movie - its still one of the best looks into the human psyche i must pick it up and read it again Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaen's signature Hide all signatures trumps toe fungus Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conor74 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 On 1/27/2010 at 6:25 PM, keltoi said: well that's animal farm then innit Yes! Didn't every kid read Lord of the Flies and think wow, what an allegory for the human condition. And then read Animal Farm and think wow, another great allegory, only this time it's about political thought. So when I said the former was an allegory about horses running farms...ach, never mind. The best bit was when Holden Caulfield killed Piggy...think it was Napoleon, the most important piggy... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 On 1/27/2010 at 6:30 PM, beatfanatic said: the abc show Lost seemed like an adult version of Lord of the flies. It still probably is. if by 'adult' you mean $500 hair styles, makeup jobs and clean fashionable clothing yes i agree Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
plstik Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 On 1/27/2010 at 9:26 PM, Awepittance said: On 1/27/2010 at 6:30 PM, beatfanatic said: the abc show Lost seemed like an adult version of Lord of the flies. It still probably is. if by 'adult' you mean $500 hair styles, makeup jobs and clean fashionable clothing yes i agree http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies lol I only recognized the part where Charlie literally mentioned it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52885-lord-of-the-flies/#findComment-1225840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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