"Song of the Youth" by Stockhausen

Personally I found this song to be rather satisfactory..

Your thoughts?

Definitely ahead of it's time, but I always find it a bit chaotic,

in before needing to listen to Didgeridoo.

I listened to this song a lot at one point . . at first I thought it was aggressive and almost malicious in its disjointedness. As I listened to it more I felt that the fragmentary nature of the piece is biographical, flashes of youth (school bells, children talking) flicking as though touched on by memory. When I listen to it most openly that is what I feel - a benevolent, exploratory jubilance, scattered and joyful.

was the point of this post to let the board know that you are aware of Stockhausen?

  On 2/11/2010 at 3:06 AM, Awepittance said:

was the point of this post to let the board know that you are aware of Stockhausen?

  On 2/11/2010 at 3:06 AM, Awepittance said:

was the point of this post to let the board know that you are aware of Stockhausen?

  On 2/11/2010 at 3:06 AM, Awepittance said:

was the point of this post to let the board know that you are aware of Stockhausen?

  On 2/11/2010 at 3:06 AM, Awepittance said:

was the point of this post to let the board know that you are aware of Stockhausen?

oh, i have some stockhausen on vinyl.

HOW IDM IS THAT?

frost! (fraust!)

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oh, i have some stockhausen on vinyl.

 

HOW IDM IS THAT?

the answer is: pretty idm

also, i would like to add that "rather satisfactory" is an equivocal and thus unsatisfactory judgement

i read this interview before i knew who stockhausen was, and I was like "who is this pretentious git"

and then I grew more wise later, and I read it again, and I was then like "oh, wait"

ive never heard this track as i could never find it.

ive never been able to get into stockhausen. im a massive fan of contemporary music, but it has to have emotion. intellectual and mathematical excersizes in composition dont resonate with me.

Like so much of mid-20th Century art of all kinds, it's about concept, rather than execution. And should be judged on concept. To do otherwise, I think, is to miss the point.

i know... i just said that im not into that style of composition. and if you listen to ligeti, messiaen, bartok, xennakis,ives, they are pushing conceptual boundaries just as much (although not in electronics) , but also their music oozes passion and feeling.

vanilla ice is better

could someone link this song to stream it perhaps? Its a such a mystery

Do you know how hard it is to google without bringing up a million Aphex Twin hits? ARGH.

Found it by its German name eventually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XfeWp2y1Lk

thanks!

we'll miss you dark lord, you were an invaluable member of this forum

What happened to Dark Lord (or dare I not ask for fear of incurring mod wrath?)

wait, WAH-HEY, when did I get another dot?

howd he get banned?

Goodnight sweet prince.

Holy shit! I just found out he got the axe!

LOL @ "ZAZBanned". Very clever!

  On 2/12/2010 at 4:03 PM, Z_B_Z said:

howd he get banned?

I think this did it...

http://forum.watmm.com/topic/53285-how-do-you-hide/page__p__1238345&?do=findComment&comment=1238345

He was trying too hard to hide his mangina.

Let this be a lesson to you all!

I'm gonna miss that little noob.

When I'm feeling down, I'll go back and re-visit this little jewel...

http://forum.watmm.com/topic/51679-how-would-i-go-about-changing-my-forum-name/page__p__1191651__fromsearch__1&?do=findComment&comment=1191651

R.I.P. "ZAZ"

7/25/09 - 2/10/10

  On 2/11/2010 at 2:50 PM, Masonic Boom said:

Like so much of mid-20th Century art of all kinds, it's about concept, rather than execution. And should be judged on concept. To do otherwise, I think, is to miss the point.

that sounds like a total cop-out.

stockhausen made so much early work via purely electronic means at a time when there really was not a whole lot of music like this, so the execution was central to the experience of composing and listening to his work. by doing this he was intentionally throwing out vast portions of what was considered acceptable ways of executing european art music, or any kind of music really.

stockhausen wasn't interested in "oozing passion and feeling," at least not like the composers messiaen mentioned. he seemed focused mainly on the profound and transformative capabilities of sound in itself and his works create conditions in which one can experience this power directly, as though without the trappings of musical tradition. to achieve this he certainly adhered to a rather austere "stockhausianism" (ie, stockhausen as a sort of messiah opening up new, unheard of realms of sound, creating a new musical language) and lots of his music can be really harsh and cold. but i've always thought this was a kind of trial by fire. but the fire is of central importance, one must get burned by stockhausen's music, not just the conceptual framework.

i'd say the execution is extremely important and to ignore this is, i think, missing the point. it may not be pretty but that is the point.

and anyway, works like Stimmung are both highly conceptual and beautifully executed.