Capsaicin Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Right now I have a jumbled mess of ideas instead of an essay. Can somebody help me find a little bit of direction? I would like to have my essay be explanatory with a large emphasis on how much Avatar sucks. I'm not asking you to write this for me, but instead give me a few ideas and a little bit of direction. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 How bout saying it doesnt suck? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 similarities: both use advanced cgi technology both protagonists are people that turn into the alien race of the film both place emphasis on politics both have a love story both garner sympathy for the alien race both are a situation where the alien race is being mistreated by evil fuckwads both used mech suits differences: avatar uses cute aliens, district 9 doesn't, making the emotional attachment with the audience more difficult to create avatar was 3d, district 9 was not district 9 was shot in that handy-cam style avatar has bright happy colors (mostly) while district 9 is a lot of browns and neutral tones avatar lacks plot, but district 9 has one district 9 used relatively unknown actors while avatar had famous ones avatar was gay district 9 took place on the human's planet while avatar took place on the alien's planet Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 god i love DIstrict 9 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 (edited) edit: actually district 9 was R. Edited February 22, 2010 by JohnTqs Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Colonialism is the most obvious theme between the two. Prawns are given homes (to a detrimental effect) and the Na'vi are deprived of theirs. I'd tear the shit out of that essay if I went post-colonial on it. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest assegai Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 2/22/2010 at 2:56 AM, Hoodie said: similarities: both use advanced cgi technology both protagonists are people that turn into the alien race of the film both place emphasis on politics both have a love story both garner sympathy for the alien race both are a situation where the alien race is being mistreated by evil fuckwads both used mech suits differences: avatar uses cute aliens, district 9 doesn't, making the emotional attachment with the audience more difficult to create avatar was 3d, district 9 was not district 9 was shot in that handy-cam style avatar has bright happy colors (mostly) while district 9 is a lot of browns and neutral tones avatar lacks plot, but district 9 has one district 9 used relatively unknown actors while avatar had famous ones avatar was gay district 9 took place on the human's planet while avatar took place on the alien's planet I read this post nodding at each point then lol'd. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 If you wanted to go a bit abstract you could approach the humans in both films as the alien-race. Back on the post-colonial tip: in both films the oppressors are transformed into the alien. One happens as a result of biology (evolution, cross-breeding?) and the other as a tool of science. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 similarities: both films were shite? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Avatar was shit District 9 was the best Movie of 2009 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Boxing Day's signature Hide all signatures I HOPE THIS MATCH NEVER ENDS - Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I thought both were "pretty ok." District 9 could have been great if it had fulfilled the potential of "Alive in Joburg" rather than spiraling off into Peter-Jackson-land. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 2/22/2010 at 3:36 AM, Gary C said: Colonialism is the most obvious theme between the two. Prawns are given homes (to a detrimental effect) and the Na'vi are deprived of theirs. I'd tear the shit out of that essay if I went post-colonial on it. Colonialism in District 9? I'm pretty sure that the word you're looking for is apartheid. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 2/22/2010 at 4:25 AM, chenGOD said: On 2/22/2010 at 3:36 AM, Gary C said: Colonialism is the most obvious theme between the two. Prawns are given homes (to a detrimental effect) and the Na'vi are deprived of theirs. I'd tear the shit out of that essay if I went post-colonial on it. Colonialism in District 9? I'm pretty sure that the word you're looking for is apartheid. Main Entry: co·lo·nial·ism Pronunciation: \kə-ˈlō-nē-ə-ˌli-zəm, -nyə-ˌli-\ Function: noun Date: 1853 1 : the quality or state of being colonial 2 : something characteristic of a colony 3 a : control by one power over a dependent area or people b : a policy advocating or based on such control it definitely fits, but I also mentioned apartheid for district 9 colonialism may be more for avatar Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fishtank Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 that's not really a fair comparison Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Super lurker ultra V12 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 avatar is an engaging film Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 avatar is like a big puddle and district 9 is like a fairly deep well Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 2/22/2010 at 4:42 AM, Capsaicin said: On 2/22/2010 at 4:25 AM, chenGOD said: On 2/22/2010 at 3:36 AM, Gary C said: Colonialism is the most obvious theme between the two. Prawns are given homes (to a detrimental effect) and the Na'vi are deprived of theirs. I'd tear the shit out of that essay if I went post-colonial on it. Colonialism in District 9? I'm pretty sure that the word you're looking for is apartheid. Main Entry: co·lo·nial·ism Pronunciation: \kə-ˈlō-nē-ə-ˌli-zəm, -nyə-ˌli-\ Function: noun Date: 1853 1 : the quality or state of being colonial 2 : something characteristic of a colony 3 a : control by one power over a dependent area or people b : a policy advocating or based on such control it definitely fits, but I also mentioned apartheid for district 9 colonialism may be more for avatar Colonialism is fairly explicit in being reserved for control over peoples (and exploitation of said people) in foreign lands. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 2/22/2010 at 4:12 AM, lumpenprol said: I thought both were "pretty ok." District 9 could have been great if it had fulfilled the potential of "Alive in Joburg" rather than spiraling off into Peter-Jackson-land. ziff Alive in Joburg was just an interesting short film, and couldn't really have been anything more. No heart, just an interesting idea. dont do that god awful "more indie than thou" act Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 (edited) yeah, district 9 doesn't really have anything to do with colonialism because the prawns were the foreigners in the movie. edit: i hit 3000 posts. wow. i have no life. Edited February 22, 2010 by Hoodie Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 That's true, although you could compare the techniques of oppression used between the two. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 lol @ techniques of oppression. that sounds like the subject of a convention rich white men might go to. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I can't remember them, but I'm pretty sure they'd include othering, displacement and derisive mimicry. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 On 2/22/2010 at 5:04 AM, Backson said: On 2/22/2010 at 4:12 AM, lumpenprol said: I thought both were "pretty ok." District 9 could have been great if it had fulfilled the potential of "Alive in Joburg" rather than spiraling off into Peter-Jackson-land. ziff Alive in Joburg was just an interesting short film, and couldn't really have been anything more. No heart, just an interesting idea. dont do that god awful "more indie than thou" act lol, should I rephrase by saying "lived up to the promise of its firt act", which was, essentially, Alive in Joburg the extended cut? My point was I liked the idea of shooting it as a mock documentary, making it gritty, immediate, and laced with dark humor. I just thought it fell apart during the second act. I didn't mind that it became more action oriented and I didn't mind the violence, it just became very cliched. It seemed they didn't know what tone to strike - if they wanted to go the Hollywood tear-jerker route, or the Veerhoven social satire plus ultraviolence route, or what. It was a mess. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 i bleed from my ears when i think about district 9. what a fucking piece of trash crap shit rotten dead smelly dog Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53667-comparisons-and-contrasts-between-avatar-and-district-9/#findComment-1249886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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