Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 this is great and utterly bizarre. just discovered via a blog i frequent... fuck i have to get the entire album. love the artwork too Quote In 1970 the odd and ill-fitting duo of UK blues sludge merchants Spooky Tooth (featuring Gary “Dreamweaver” Wright) and the Godfather of musique concrète Pierre Henry released the Christian themed Ceremony LP. To this day this has to be one of the most confounding, “what were they thinking?” type of records I’ve ever heard. It’s fantastic the way Henry’s elements are mixed far, far above the band and with surprisingly little (or perhaps very abstract) regard for what the band is playing. A bloody-minded masterpiece ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjfeYB-LEig Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 definitely grabbing this, what blog? i just grabbed the 3xcd set of Pierre Schaeffer titled 'l'ceuvre musicale' , it'ss pretty mind blowing and what's odd is the farther you go back like to 1948 it sounds a lot weirder almost before Musique concrete' became a style for Henry and Schaeffer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 more of a site than a blog i guess, but http://www.dangerousminds.net/ im interested in getting more into musique concrete. what would you recommend? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) well i think at least for me the best thing i picked up was that 3xcd set. It's a great introduction to all of it as well as an awesome historical document. Just hearing what was technically the first musique concrete' song gave me chills, it sounded super futuristic. I had a bunch of Henry cds a while back but i was always more interested to check out stuff by the guy who actually invented it instead of his protege. For some reason Henry made a shit load more actual music than Schaeffer Edited February 24, 2010 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 what i've heard from pierre henry pretty much sucks. pierre schaeffer on the other hand is fucking genius. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) i shall check it out. ive never actually taken the time to really get into pure musique concrete, but its something ive had an interest in @ awepittance On 2/24/2010 at 10:23 PM, Brian Tregaskin said: what i've heard from pierre henry pretty much sucks. pierre schaeffer on the other hand is fucking genius. what makes them so different? Edited February 24, 2010 by Z_B_Z Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 i dont know, i like them both. to say one 'sucks' is a little harsh, maybe he heard a 128kbps transcode of all his work and judged it based on that? i only prefer Schaeffer because he invented it as well as seems to be more unpredictable. Henry seems to have gotten into a little bit of a groove with his style, thats the only big criticism i can give Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 On 2/24/2010 at 10:27 PM, Z_B_Z said: On 2/24/2010 at 10:23 PM, Brian Tregaskin said: what i've heard from pierre henry pretty much sucks. pierre schaeffer on the other hand is fucking genius. what makes them so different? i don't know. i haven't heard much pierre henry in fact. but i listened to schaeffer's "l'oeuvre musicale" a lot and i can tell it's fucking timeless and fascinating. he was doing the autechre back in the seventies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2qPccm8YrI Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 very cool, but he clearly lacked the funk of autechre Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 indeed Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) On 2/24/2010 at 10:40 PM, Brian Tregaskin said: On 2/24/2010 at 10:27 PM, Z_B_Z said: On 2/24/2010 at 10:23 PM, Brian Tregaskin said: what i've heard from pierre henry pretty much sucks. pierre schaeffer on the other hand is fucking genius. what makes them so different? i don't know. i haven't heard much pierre henry in fact. but i listened to schaeffer's "l'oeuvre musicale" a lot and i can tell it's fucking timeless and fascinating. he was doing the autechre back in the seventies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2qPccm8YrI not to be a musical elitist faggot, but Morton Subotnick was doing a lot more autechrey stuff back in the 60s Schaeffers most interesting stuff in my opinion is the music dealing with all real sounds no oscillator type stuff. Edited February 24, 2010 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) you're a musical elitist faggot. nah just kidding. i'm gonna check him out, i'm wide open to all discoveries oh and i'm not saying that i know everything in music. i don't have much culture you know Edited February 24, 2010 by Brian Tregaskin Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Speaking of awesome musique conrete people, any one else like Tod Dockstader? I've been really into his "Electronic" album (only have part 1 atm) (though this is after his actual tape music years) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 yeah i agree with you awepittance. his synth stuff is not at all the most interesting part of his work Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 ive read people raving over dockstader but havent actuallt heard anything by him. going to sample that album Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glass Plate Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 There are a few songs on Electronic that really sound (as Keith Fullerton Whitman put it) like Preazoic Aphex Twin Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 anything to recommend by doctor robotnik awepittance? i want to check out his stuff Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) my favorites : this is the one that sounds Confield-ish to me ( 4 butterflies ) Silver apples of the moon is his most famous work, where the later 70s electronic rock band got its name from. I can't say its one of my favorites but its still pretty good. Edited February 25, 2010 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Z_B_Z Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 elitist music fag comment - silver apples were from the 60s ;) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 (edited) haha, they were inspired by that title right? its not a coincidence at least i dont think so odd synchronicity i just realized is that Tangerine Dream got it's name from a Beatles song, and Silver Apples got their name from a Morton Subotnick album title. 2 highly influential electronic bands both lifting fruit related names from other musicians. Edited February 25, 2010 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 On 2/24/2010 at 11:19 PM, Awepittance said: omg, this looks like the minotaur in tekkon kinkreet. wicked great, i will check these out. ie i will download them illegally Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/53762-spooky-tooth-with-pierre-henry/#findComment-1252688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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