flac or 320 kpbs mp3?

Should I save music as flac or as 320 mp3? flacs take up a lot of room on the HD but then I dont have to get the anxiety of "am i experiencing this music to its fullest?". stupid i know. where do you stand on the issue?

i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless?

i go with 320mp3 because some shit (like my ipod) doesn't do flac. i can't really tell the difference except with my own tracks

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:14 AM, JohnTqs said:

i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless?

yes it is truly lossless

VBR 0 for me: smaller than 320 and sounds just as good

i cant tell the difference between flac and a good quality mp3 but i dont have amazing speakers/headphones

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:16 AM, oscillik said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:14 AM, JohnTqs said:

i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless?

yes it is truly lossless

wouldn't it need to have an infinite bitrate? and isn't that impossible for a digital file to do?

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:14 AM, JohnTqs said:

plus is flac even truly lossless?

Since the digital release of Oversteps, 16-bit wav files don't seem enough, so bleep made 24-bit wav files available solely for Autechre. Afterwards people will complain there is a difference between 48-bit and 24-bit wav files.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:18 AM, JohnTqs said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:16 AM, oscillik said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:14 AM, JohnTqs said:

i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless?

yes it is truly lossless

 

wouldn't it need to have an infinite bitrate? and isn't that impossible for a digital file to do?

flac is just a fancy way of zipping a .wav file. no information is lost from the original .wav input. you can unflac your file, and get back 100% of the data you started with.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:23 AM, chaosmachine said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:18 AM, JohnTqs said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:16 AM, oscillik said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:14 AM, JohnTqs said:

i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless?

yes it is truly lossless

 

wouldn't it need to have an infinite bitrate? and isn't that impossible for a digital file to do?

 

flac is just a fancy way of zipping a .wav file. no information is lost from the original .wav input. you can unflac your file, and get back 100% of the data you started with.

so then, does a wav file have an infinite bitrate?

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:24 AM, JohnTqs said:

so then, does a wav file have an infinite bitrate?

a wav file has fixed bitrate. the same bitrate as the cd.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:25 AM, chaosmachine said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:24 AM, JohnTqs said:

so then, does a wav file have an infinite bitrate?

 

a wav file has fixed bitrate. the same bitrate as the cd.

i guess i just don't understand how it can be lossless and have a bitrate. unless i am confused about the definition of lossless.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:18 AM, JohnTqs said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:16 AM, oscillik said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:14 AM, JohnTqs said:

i go with 320 kbps. i would only use flac if i could genuinely hear a difference, which i don't. plus is flac even truly lossless?

yes it is truly lossless

 

wouldn't it need to have an infinite bitrate? and isn't that impossible for a digital file to do?

you're talking about bit-depth. completely different

If you use MP3, you hate music.

If your ipod doesn't support FLAC , USE OTHER LOSSLESS FORMAT OR GET FUCKING ROCKBOX.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:26 AM, JohnTqs said:

i guess i just don't understand how it can be lossless and have a bitrate. unless i am confused about the definition of lossless.

lossless just means you don't lose anything going from one format to another. the data is the same on the cd, in the .wav file, and in the flac.

but not the mp3. the mp3 discards some bits of information in order to get smaller sizes. for example, frequencies above 16khz might be cut off. the data lost in going from cd to mp3 can not be regained. in other words, it's lossy.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:36 AM, Boxing Day said:

If you use MP3, you hate music.

If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:43 AM, Obel said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:36 AM, Boxing Day said:

If you use MP3, you hate music.

 

If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat.

I am sorry , but if you rather listen to a shit quality version of a track , you either hate music or are totally ignorant of the magic of lossless formats

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:46 AM, Boxing Day said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:43 AM, Obel said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:36 AM, Boxing Day said:

If you use MP3, you hate music.

 

If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat.

 

 

I am sorry , but if you rather listen to a shit quality version of a track , you either hate music or are totally ignorant of the magic of lossless A.K.A - "I don't know how to convert it" "Windows media player won't play FLAC" "My ipod doesn't play FLAC"

it depends on choice man.

if someone wants to use MP3 because that's what their portable player supports, and is a format that allows them the best use of their storage, then that's their prerogative.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:47 AM, oscillik said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:46 AM, Boxing Day said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:43 AM, Obel said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:36 AM, Boxing Day said:

If you use MP3, you hate music.

 

If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat.

 

 

I am sorry , but if you rather listen to a shit quality version of a track , you either hate music or are totally ignorant of the magic of lossless A.K.A - "I don't know how to convert it" "Windows media player won't play FLAC" "My ipod doesn't play FLAC"

it depends on choice man.

 

if someone wants to use MP3 because that's what their portable player supports, and is a format that allows them the best use of their storage, then that's their prerogative.

Easy solution - ROCKBOX

Unless you have a 20 Gigabytes storage capability , you have no fucking excuse. , there are ways.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:54 AM, Boxing Day said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:47 AM, oscillik said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:46 AM, Boxing Day said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:43 AM, Obel said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:36 AM, Boxing Day said:

If you use MP3, you hate music.

 

If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat.

 

 

I am sorry , but if you rather listen to a shit quality version of a track , you either hate music or are totally ignorant of the magic of lossless A.K.A - "I don't know how to convert it" "Windows media player won't play FLAC" "My ipod doesn't play FLAC"

it depends on choice man.

 

if someone wants to use MP3 because that's what their portable player supports, and is a format that allows them the best use of their storage, then that's their prerogative.

 

Easy solution - ROCKBOX

 

Unless you have a 20 Gigabytes storage capability , you have no fucking excuse. , there are ways.

funnily enough, Rockbox doesn't work on every portable digital music player.

there is no excuse for you

wow, you must really love music unlike all those haters. but a flac album is like 500mb, and a 320k will be about 120mb. its all about the numbers.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:54 AM, Boxing Day said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:47 AM, oscillik said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:46 AM, Boxing Day said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:43 AM, Obel said:

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:36 AM, Boxing Day said:

If you use MP3, you hate music.

 

If only there weren't a screen seperating my grasp from your throat.

 

 

I am sorry , but if you rather listen to a shit quality version of a track , you either hate music or are totally ignorant of the magic of lossless A.K.A - "I don't know how to convert it" "Windows media player won't play FLAC" "My ipod doesn't play FLAC"

it depends on choice man.

 

if someone wants to use MP3 because that's what their portable player supports, and is a format that allows them the best use of their storage, then that's their prerogative.

 

Easy solution - ROCKBOX

 

Unless you have a 20 Gigabytes storage capability , you have no fucking excuse. , there are ways.

  On 3/21/2010 at 1:17 AM, 42Orange said:

VBR 0 for me: smaller than 320 and sounds just as good

 

i cant tell the difference between flac and a good quality mp3 but i dont have amazing speakers/headphones

Yep to both points (and I have decent headphones). I am yet to meet someone who can tell the difference 'tween v0s and flacs.

i use mp3 precisely because I hate music.

Lol

I would use flac for archiving purposes on the old external hard drive. it's lossless, so you can convert it to whatever the latest greatest format is that comes along in the future for use on your portable personal listening device.

flac, because I dont have to care about storage/space