Dillinger Escape Plan - Option Paralysis

Just started listening now, sounds purty firey, im not always in love with the vocalists style but DEP is pretty IDM for hardcore. yeh im pretty sure im listen to this album quite a few times. This chill down bridge is purty bad ass

This is a FANTASTIC album. I was going to start a thread about it, but you've beaten me to it. I think they're my favorite metal band right now, and that's partly because I like their vocals so much. Greg's crazy versatile, and he's got great melodic sensibilities too. He's like all the singers I loved in my adolescence rolled into one, but more vicious. Usually it bugs me when singers ape other singers in a really obvious way, but he's just so fucking good at it, and stronger than the singer he's sounding like more often than not. The whole band really is second to none.

Yeah they are pretty impressive, only thing I'm not really digging on this album is the lyrics but the music makes up for it for sure.

It's like you people never heard of their first album ten years ago. This album is a poor replica of that first album.

Their last album was crap. Miss machine was mostly crap. Everything before that is fucking genius. I haven't even paid attention this this because of ire works. I imagine it's more of the same or is it worth getting? This is only half the band that made calculating infinity anyway

I haven't paid any attention to the lyrics. Most of the lyrics I've caught on the previous albums have been kind of lame at worst, unremarkable otherwise. But he sings them with such conviction that I'm okay with it. With metal, I don't really care what the fuck they're singing about as long as the delivery's good. Of course, I might feel differently if I could actually understand the words. Bad lyrics in almost any other genre can really get under my skin.

If you didn't like their last couple albums, you probably won't like this one either. It doesn't add much new to the equation, they're just getting better at their craft... doesn't really compare all that much to their older albums.

I didn't like Ire Works really at all, I haven't listen to the whole album yet but everything is waaay more energetic, creative and raw in its delivery.

  On 3/26/2010 at 11:51 AM, jules said:

Their last album was crap. Miss machine was mostly crap. Everything before that is fucking genius. I haven't even paid attention this this because of ire works. I imagine it's more of the same or is it worth getting? This is only half the band that made calculating infinity anyway

this. ^

and...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CGZCNpvgYk

aaaah good ole days.

Heheh, whatever guys, they're still fucking awesome. They were great then and they're still great now.

  On 3/27/2010 at 8:23 PM, Zephyr_Nova said:

Heheh, whatever guys, they're still fucking awesome. They were great then and they're still great now.

QFT.... but yeh Ire Works wasn't ultra mega wicked or anything, I understand why they are being pessimistic sally's

  On 3/26/2010 at 11:47 AM, the anonymous forumite said:

It's like you people never heard of their first album ten years ago. This album is a poor replica of that first album.

This /\

What a disappointing record. I mean, yeah, it's sorta good but if you have followed them since Calculating Infinity this is a waste of time. Utter retread with nothing new to add. Especially disappointing when you consider how fucking awesome the last one (Ire Works) was and how much of a step forward it represented. Makes this one seem really one-dimensional and tactless.

And for the record, they stole their shtick off Meshuggah and Refused (the former of which still kick their ass and the later broke up almost immediately after their best album). DEP did psychopathic a lot more convincingly with Dimitri

I've just listened to this after some good comments and made it midway through track 3. I really dislike Greg's vocals so it just ruins it all for me. Last good thing DEP did was the Irony EP which is up there as one of the best releases ever. I wish I liked this but I just don't

  On 3/31/2010 at 5:32 PM, Grizz said:

I really dislike Greg's vocals so it just ruins it all for me.

I agree. DEP's musicianship is impressive, but I cannot stand those vocals.

Somewhere between the awesomeness of calculating and now, I got too old for dep

I hope I never get too old to listen to heavy ass math metal or self absorbed mind fuck idm

all of their intense stuff sounds the same to me. i think i'm a reverse DEP fan or something, i only like when they do something unique with melodic vocals or electronics or jazz chords. the spazzy songs just don't do it for me, too many ridiculous timing changes for no reason.

  On 4/1/2010 at 5:41 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

I hope I never get too old to listen to heavy ass math metal

give yourself another ten years and you'll be like, "man, this is the exact same thing they were doing ten years ago. are they really still that pissed off? jeeeeez"

43% Burnt never loses any luster. Even if the outro is the most obvious Meshuggah rip-off they've ever committed to disk.

  On 4/1/2010 at 7:06 PM, Greg Reason said:

43% Burnt never loses any luster. Even if the outro is the most obvious Meshuggah rip-off they've ever committed to disk.

i can still listen to calculating any day of the week. there's just no way to top that record

  On 4/1/2010 at 5:35 PM, jules said:

  On 4/1/2010 at 5:41 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

I hope I never get too old to listen to heavy ass math metal

 

 

give yourself another ten years and you'll be like, "man, this is the exact same thing they were doing ten years ago. are they really still that pissed off? jeeeeez"

not really referring to DEP im talkin more about listening to meshuggah, textures, reflux etc. any good extreme/tech/math metal or any self indulgent idm/electronic that I still love from back in the day.

Im sure your a little older than me but im 26 and I dont feel like my taste in music is getting more "mature" so to speak and not being able to listen to good extreme music I loved when I was 16. my taste in music is just getting more dynamic and appreciative

  On 4/1/2010 at 9:26 PM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

  On 4/1/2010 at 5:35 PM, jules said:

  On 4/1/2010 at 5:41 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

I hope I never get too old to listen to heavy ass math metal

 

 

give yourself another ten years and you'll be like, "man, this is the exact same thing they were doing ten years ago. are they really still that pissed off? jeeeeez"

 

not really referring to DEP im talkin more about listening to meshuggah, textures, reflux etc. any good extreme/tech/math metal or any self indulgent idm/electronic that I still love from back in the day.

 

Im sure your a little older than me but im 26 and I dont feel like my taste in music is getting more "mature" so to speak and not being able to listen to good extreme music I loved when I was 16. my taste in music is just getting more dynamic and appreciative

im def not saying thats exactly whats going to happen. it did happen to me though. after 30 or so, i started to move away from the really heavy stuff. i still adore meshuggah, its just not like it used to be. i listen to that on a less frequent basis. when i was younger and pissed, that stuff was great. now im just old and cynical. sometimes i feel like i have the mind of an 75 year old man sitting on his porch who doesnt want any kids in his yard

At least Meshuggah do more (comparatively) chilled abstract stuff so you don't always have to be ready to break things when you listen to them The second half of 'In Death is Death' is especially wonderful. Matter of fact, that whole record just blows me the fuck away and other than 'Dehumanization' it really isn't that psycho.

  On 4/2/2010 at 2:53 AM, Greg Reason said:

At least Meshuggah do more (comparatively) chilled abstract stuff so you don't always have to be ready to break things when you listen to them The second half of 'In Death is Death' is especially wonderful. Matter of fact, that whole record just blows me the fuck away and other than 'Dehumanization' it really isn't that psycho.

yeah i fucking love meshuggah. thordendal's jazz guitar solos totally make the band amazing. "i" is a masterpiece.