Guest FortyTwo Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 So, everyone turns off their lights. But, guess what? Power plants generate electricity based upon trends over periods of time. Power plants don't turn on and off with a switch. It takes days to dial down production, weeks to turn them off and weeks to turn them back on. You turn off your lights, but the power for that is still being generated. Your power plant produces it, you don't use it and then it gets passed onto another grid and your plant doesn't get money for it and eventually has to raise your rates because it's losing money. Now, it passes onto another grid, which is producing based on its own trends in demand and people there are turning off their lights too so there is extra power there, which is added to your extra power and moves on again. People across the country are turning their lights off, so the amount of extra power generated increases geometrically. It's not used, it eventually gets grounded away. So, on an ordinary day, X amount of power is used for Y amount of greenhouse gasses. The goal is to make Y lower. But the result of Earth Hour is to make X lower. Making the proportion of greenhouse gasses to power used even worse. Congrats, you're not only morons but you're making pollution worse and you're contributing to increasing costs of energy. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 good job, dr science. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1280731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 did you think it'd be so big if it could possibly hurt the industry? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1280734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 On 3/26/2010 at 7:38 PM, FortyTwo said: So, everyone turns off their lights. But, guess what? Power plants generate electricity based upon trends over periods of time. Power plants don't turn on and off with a switch. It takes days to dial down production, weeks to turn them off and weeks to turn them back on. You turn off your lights, but the power for that is still being generated. Your power plant produces it, you don't use it and then it gets passed onto another grid and your plant doesn't get money for it and eventually has to raise your rates because it's losing money. Now, it passes onto another grid, which is producing based on its own trends in demand and people there are turning off their lights too so there is extra power there, which is added to your extra power and moves on again. People across the country are turning their lights off, so the amount of extra power generated increases geometrically. It's not used, it eventually gets grounded away. So, on an ordinary day, X amount of power is used for Y amount of greenhouse gasses. The goal is to make Y lower. But the result of Earth Hour is to make X lower. Making the proportion of greenhouse gasses to power used even worse. Congrats, you're not only morons but you're making pollution worse and you're contributing to increasing costs of energy. To be fair... I think you're a bigger moron Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1280742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 hah thats great Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide MAXIMUS MISCHIEF's signature Hide all signatures official sup barnstar of coolness Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1280743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 what i hate about it is that it generates a feeling in people that they have doe their part just because they turned off the lights for a day, and then continue to live their wasteful lifes like usual. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide GORDO's signature Hide all signatures ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1280770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FortyTwo Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 On 3/26/2010 at 7:47 PM, chimera slot mom said: did you think it'd be so big if it could possibly hurt the industry? People use electricity like it originates at the switch on the wall. Intellectually they know how it works, but they don't consider it on an everyday basis. The best possible thing you can do to reduce greenhouse gasses through tweaking electricity consumption is to turn off lights and devices in rooms you aren't in and do it 24/7/365. Short bursts of moderation are more harmful than overuse. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1280772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 On 3/26/2010 at 8:22 PM, FortyTwo said: On 3/26/2010 at 7:47 PM, chimera slot mom said: did you think it'd be so big if it could possibly hurt the industry? People use electricity like it originates at the switch on the wall. Intellectually they know how it works, but they don't consider it on an everyday basis. The best possible thing you can do to reduce greenhouse gasses through tweaking electricity consumption is to turn off lights and devices in rooms you aren't in and do it 24/7/365. Short bursts of moderation are more harmful than overuse. When did you become an environmentalist? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1280774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chax Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 i'll make sure to leave all my lights on and leave my fridge open in order to make up for other people, thanks for the reminder Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1280779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FortyTwo Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 On 3/26/2010 at 8:23 PM, Obel said: On 3/26/2010 at 8:22 PM, FortyTwo said: On 3/26/2010 at 7:47 PM, chimera slot mom said: did you think it'd be so big if it could possibly hurt the industry? People use electricity like it originates at the switch on the wall. Intellectually they know how it works, but they don't consider it on an everyday basis. The best possible thing you can do to reduce greenhouse gasses through tweaking electricity consumption is to turn off lights and devices in rooms you aren't in and do it 24/7/365. Short bursts of moderation are more harmful than overuse. When did you become an environmentalist? Since never! I hate our climate and hope it dies a horrible painful death! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1280819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Karnov Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I know, crazy isn't it. it's almost as if the whole thing is being done to raise awareness or something, rather than actually cut energy use for 60mins or something. Pfft. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1280942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 we need an earth hour for me to stop consuming alcohol ... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1281131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 On 3/27/2010 at 6:14 AM, delet... said: we need an earth hour for me to stop consuming alcohol ... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1281190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 Go to an hour long AA meeting Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1281547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 My favorite were the myspace gas protests; "Don't buy gas on this day, and anticipate not buying gas on this day by buying it the day before." Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1281640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremymacgregor87 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I do my part from about 2-10am most days. That's good enough right? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jeremymacgregor87's signature Hide all signatures profundity Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1281681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FortyTwo Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 On 3/27/2010 at 1:17 AM, Karnov said: I know, crazy isn't it. it's almost as if the whole thing is being done to raise awareness or something, rather than actually cut energy use for 60mins or something. Pfft. "Making people aware" has always been a very pointless motive. If you want to save the Earth, stop drinking bottled water and find a way to make solar power cheap and more efficient. Making people aware just motivates them to turn off the lights for a day, after which they'll go back to their normal schedule. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1281739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) It's better just to turn off lights you're not using the whole year round. The hallway/garage/unattended rooms. They have this clean up australia day every year here. I don't help out, as i don't litter, and often on top of that randomly pick up and throw away things when a bin is near if it's not gungy, anyway. I get the feeling that these types of communal events only serve to salve the consciences of the wasteful and the litterbugs. Kinda like the way that going to church every sunday or so helps rip off slaves to mammon sleep better at night. I also agree with the making people aware point of view, it helps galvanize the plebs into action or something. maybe, hopefully, fucking plebs. Edited March 29, 2010 by delet... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1282371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chax Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 instead of celebrating earth hour, i celebrated the human achievement hour aka the power hour. i had ALL my lights on and decided to self-clean the oven. my apartment was so bright i was blinded Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1282388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 If you had a deregulated market (?) you could have bought the power at a cheaper rate on the open market for that hour. I should have done that here, make a change from getting ripped more and more by the bastards. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1282426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history. -mahatma gandhi Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1282564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Hounos Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 word up, troon! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1282566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 On 3/29/2010 at 4:09 PM, troon said: A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history. -mahatma gandhi i'm not sure what context you're putting this in are you talking about the people participating in earth hour or those who try to clean shit up every day? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1282666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) without a doubt On 3/29/2010 at 6:36 PM, theSun said: those who try to clean shit up every day Edited March 29, 2010 by troon Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1282670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholdapalehorse Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 No thanks. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/54727-earth-hour/#findComment-1282684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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