waves complete bundle

i neither condone nor condemn, but as of this writing, apparently ilok has been completely compromised, and the full waves bundle is now available on the interwebz.

last week a few ilok-protected apps started showing up without the need for a reset or anything clunky like that. the individual behind this apparently has found a way to completely remove any references to pace protection from the plugins.

this has been the holy grail of a lot of scene hackers and whatnot, and PACE is notoriously powerful stuff to crack, being essentially hardware-based (although not really), so i thought this was interesting news.

waves has been incredibly extortionate with their pricing in the past, partly due to being comfortable with their 'uncrackable' status, so it'll be interesting to see what the fallout from this will be.

is this some brand new version of waves plugins? almost 2 years ago I downloaded(I mean purchased ehhem) off of SLSK almost a gig of 18 different waves bundles.. and they all work purty wellski

  On 4/8/2010 at 5:30 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

is this some brand new version of waves plugins? almost 2 years ago I downloaded(I mean purchased ehhem) off of SLSK almost a gig of 18 different waves bundles.. and they all work purty wellski

it's the most recent crop. the mercury bundle, etc. V7 if you like.

the older stuff i had needed a reset script run now and then to basically reset the demo timeout. this is different. your system considers it a complete legit install.

it's almost too good to be true...

hmmmz I didn't need to do any demo resetin or anything all my waves bundles run like they are legit... but I definitely wanna check out the mercury and see if its got some better compression, mastering capabilities... pm if you have any details... ehh herm

  On 4/8/2010 at 6:07 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

hmmmz I didn't need to do any demo resetin or anything all my waves bundles run like they are legit... but I definitely wanna check out the mercury and see if its got some better compression, mastering capabilities... pm if you have any details... ehh herm

are you PC based or MAC based? i know PC has had some non-reset style solutions, but this one is mac-centric, which is a bit more surprising... i haven't actually checked out the full bundle yet, but i'll let you know if i do. ;)

ohhh I see that makes more sense, yeh I'm a PC (bill gates just paid me half the price of a waves bundle to say that)

Yeah I'm not into cracked stuff anymore. However waves stuff has always been available on pc's since, pretty much always. I once bought a version of logic off ebay that I thought was the real legit thing (lol ebay noob) anyway it wasn't and it came with the first waves bundle cracked and then whatever the next one was. Worked flawlessly.

But I understand it being different for mac users.

My stance on iloks, and any kind of "protection" for software is that they are ridiculous. As long as there is one good programmer to come up with some new

"breakthrough" protection method, there are 100 that can work around it, and about 4-5 that can work around it and have it work without any problems whatsoever. The people that really suffer are the people that buy it and have nightmarish problems installing, authorizing, and are limited to having it on only one or two computers.

That said, Waves makes quality plugins and their prices are ridiculous, but they are but higher end than the majority of stuff available. There's some hit and misses but there's about 6 waves plugins that I still use on pretty much every track, and have for ages. Luckily you can buy smaller bundles or buy things separately if you don't want a whole bunch of stuff you aren't going to use.

=D

  On 4/8/2010 at 5:16 AM, maus said:

 

this has been the holy grail of a lot of scene hackers and whatnot, and PACE is notoriously powerful stuff to crack, being essentially hardware-based (although not really), so i thought this was interesting news.

 

 

AiR cracked PACE/ilok a few months ago, so I suspect this MAC cracking group is using their work, which is what usually happens. Having said that there's no current scene release of Waves for pc.

I still download lots of music and movies, and in doing this I saw Cubase 5 get cracked super fast like maybe only a month or two after it first came out. Being a 5 owner myself It's almost tempting so that I could use it on my laptop too. I hate giant sticks butting out the side of my laptop, especially when trying to sit in bed, my cat often steps on them and breaks them :( This also happens to flimsy pcmia cards too like the firewire one I bought to use with my presonus firebox.

But I prefer stability over comfort I suppose. And it's nice to be able to make a phone call and talk to an actual person and not have to sift through a zillion forum posts when you're trying to figure out why something isn't working correctly.

edit: and it's also nice to be directly supporting the developer and distributor. I can not even imagine how much time it takes to program the amazing varieties of DAW software that are available today.

I know that "Waldorf Largo" uses ilok or similar but you don't have to have a physical dongle. It's funny tho cuz I downloaded the demo to use on my test comp which has cracked versions of sx 3 and a few other things on it, and when I installed largo the "ilok" software disabled the cracked version of sx 3. Hehe, I don't know if that was intentional or not but well done I suppose. Anyway, if you're going to use it that's the way to go, not having a dongle and other companies should pay attention to that.

I know some companies like soundtower and sonic charge embed your name and credit card info into your registration code so if someone gets it and tries to update it they know who you are. A bit too big brothery but small companies gotta do what they gotta do i suppose.

BUt again, there's very little software out there that is not available on the "other" market and I think it's a giant waste of money and time on both sides for companies to use any kind of piracy prevention. They should just stick with simple serial numbers b/c that's the most streamlined and simple.

there is no uncrackable, there is just buying time before it's cracked. really -- they just aim to get as long as they can, so people that want the software have to buy it for the first few weeks or months.

this is why "software as a service" is catching on. they can keep the genie in the bottle...

i use Rverb for plate reverb on almost every track and REQ for EQing. i havent found anything digital that sounds as good as those things for those specific needs.

Waves Complete VST RTAS TDM v7.1.1.6-AiR

just came out... just sayin

I read a posting ages ago saying V7 would be about for Christmas and PT9 for New Year. Probably just a guess and some internet bullshitting, but I wouldn't mind dicking around with it.

  On 4/8/2010 at 10:35 PM, hahathhat said:

there is no uncrackable, there is just buying time before it's cracked. really -- they just aim to get as long as they can, so people that want the software have to buy it for the first few weeks or months.

 

this is why "software as a service" is catching on. they can keep the genie in the bottle...

This is why I'm surprised Pianoteq 3 doesn't appear to have any attempts towards cracking it, it's been out for nearly two years now and nothing seems to be out there warez/crack wise (which is why I ended up buying it this summer - albeit second hand)

like other posters, i had diamond waves about three years ago... the mechanism of the crack doesn't interest me.

this post does not condone piracy or imply i am a pirate, etc etc