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joshier, i second that... is maschine worth buying and i'm wondering if n.i plans to expand the drum hit library for it. i havn't done my research.

 

edit anyone own maschine?

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  On 4/18/2010 at 7:45 PM, sonny said:

joshier, i second that... is maschine worth buying and i'm wondering if n.i plans to expand the drum hit library for it. i havn't done my research.

 

edit anyone own maschine?

 

 

There's a couple of maschine threads on here. I like it. Very good for electonic drums and sampling. The upcoming 1.5 update is going to have a subset of the Abbey Road drums on it, so there'll be some decent acoustic drums too, though not with the same level of editablity/versatility of some of the big dedicated acoustic libraries.

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  On 4/18/2010 at 8:48 PM, Kcinsu said:

Bfd? drums from hell?

 

those are obsolete now, toontracks superior drummer 2.0 is a god send, I cant imagine anything making any improvements on it really besides just adding more expansion packs

 

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only one I dont have is custom and vintage, doo want

 

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i need something to make "big beat" chemical brothers propellorheads style stuff with.

 

this is a serious question and i will be investigating it further. i really could use some tips

 

i was looking at twizted drums and drums from hell

 

and some other stuff, i really love, love love good loops but i want to make some of my own heavy sounding shit.

 

stuff like the heavy beats from dig your own hole and fatboy slim and etc

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my suggestion (toontracks superior drummer 2.0)(the much better successor to drumkit from hell superior) with the expansions is bare none the most dynamic, versatile, customizable, realistic software drum package available period.

Guest Lube Saibot
  On 4/19/2010 at 9:31 PM, Rbrmyofr said:

 

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lol not really, but that some solid shit right there

 

Samplemagic and Big Fish Audio packs are really good. Vengeance packs are bread n butter fundamental. If you get some of the better rated newer dubstep packs and some DnB packs that aren't breaks collections, i think you'll be set for life.

  On 4/19/2010 at 9:31 PM, Rbrmyofr said:

 

 

Maschine 1.5 update is out.

 

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Version 1.5 includes 1 GB of new high-quality content, made up of 100 new multi-sampled instruments and 15 new drum kits, six of which are MPC60* Vintage Kits prepared by the renowned drum machine geek, Goldbaby.

 

check out the artist videos and the intro video on the maschine 1.5 page. i shot them all and edited the numark and dawaun parker ones.

 

although berlin changed the audio track on the numark one from his lav mic to the room mic, and IMHO it sounds awful, but hey. it's their website!

i like to use Native Intruments` "Synthetic Drums" 1&2. The drumkits were compiled by these peeps:

 

Speedy J/Funkarma, Telefon Tel Aviv, Lusine, Chris Liebing, Funkstörung, Eden, Jake Mandell, Freeform, Plaid, Richard Devine, Simon Pyke, Smyglyssna, Kai Tracid, Atom Heart, Señor Coconut, Murcof, Bob Humid, Sutekh, Einoma, Junkie XL, Exile, Dan Curtin, MRI, Andrew Phillpott/Christian Eigner, Pendulum, Rob Acid, Âme.

 

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/de/products/producer/kore-soundpacks/synthetic-drums-2/

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  On 4/21/2010 at 11:51 AM, panz0r said:

i like to use Native Intruments` "Synthetic Drums" 1&2. The drumkits were compiled by these peeps:

 

Speedy J/Funkarma, Telefon Tel Aviv, Lusine, Chris Liebing, Funkstörung, Eden, Jake Mandell, Freeform, Plaid, Richard Devine, Simon Pyke, Smyglyssna, Kai Tracid, Atom Heart, Señor Coconut, Murcof, Bob Humid, Sutekh, Einoma, Junkie XL, Exile, Dan Curtin, MRI, Andrew Phillpott/Christian Eigner, Pendulum, Rob Acid, Âme.

 

 

actually most of those kits are folded in to the maschine library as well. along with a few new 'artist' kits from more hip-hop oriented producers.

 

a lot of the newer kits are really impressive. they're designed for "urban" music, but they just hit really hard. punchy kicks and thick, stereo-imaged claps, poppy snares. easily tweaked to be IDM-friendly (or perhaps friendly to a new genre altogether.)

 

the 1.5 update includes selections from the new abbey road 60s and 70s drum kits, but they're pretty pared down.

 

as far as electronic kits go, though, the library alone is WELL worth maschine's price. not to mention how easy it is to slice things up - i route my system audio through soundflower and end up slicing up youtube audio and the like - it's LOTS of fun.

I been kinda thinking the same thing for these 2 pages now.

 

I don't think any of my favorite artists used high quality drum libraries.

 

Infact I think most used shitty ones(most likely due to limitations of old school samplers) and made them sound awesome.

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the need for highly versatile drum packages like the superior drummer 2.0 line is much more important when your trying to really step outside of traditional electronic drums. there simply a lot of things you cant to do with breakbeats, even sampling your own drums/snare/bass drums/cymbals percussion hit 30 times each isnt going to give you the dynamic versatility of mixing, triggering, programming with something like superior drummer. the level of control is fucking astounding with superior drummer.

 

sure for really unique weird hits for glitch hop, idm, electronic stuff cut up your drum samples

 

but if your trying to introduce more sonically soft to hard, metal to shoegaze post rock big to small room sound dynamic percussion your gonna need something like superior drummer 2.0 that gives you all the control of having 10 thousand dollar drum kits in 3 million dollar studios with thousands of dollars in mic's that you can manipulate individually to maximum potential

for some reason there is a big back lash against using the library synthetic drums on watmm, apparently you're drums have to be made by a 45 year old bald dude who is mostly anonymous to be allowed to be used in electronic music. its 'off limits' to use a bass drum made by richard devine, for some reason that makes your idm music more derivative than using a modified 909 bassdrum from a Maschine sample bank

 

but on another note entirely i think that the only reason why one would use these 'high quality' drum sampling libraries is to make fake band/rock music entirely on the computer. or if you make throw-away generic background music for licensing, i can see these types of libraries being extremely helpful. you can do interesting things in this realm like my friend made an entire punk album this way and the end result was pretty realistic sounding, he dirtied up all the layers on guitar amp plugins and wow and flutter tape emulators.

 

the only drum plugin that is a sample library i've used extensively is Yellow Tools Culture, it has so many velocity layers that you can easily trick someone into thinking you are playing live congas

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Guest Blanket Fort Collapse
  On 4/22/2010 at 7:11 AM, Awepittance said:

but on another note entirely i think that the only reason why one would use these 'high quality' drum sampling libraries is to make fake band/rock music entirely on the computer. or if you make throw-away generic background music for licensing, i can see these types of libraries being extremely helpful.

 

:facepalm: thats a ricky retardo statement IMHO. Those are the only reasons why someone would want completely versatile realistic drum's that you can do anything you want with? you could make an extremely idm, trip hop, hip hop, metal, rnb what the fuck ever tracks with realistic percussion package interfaces.

 

if people just keep using the fucking amen and 808s electronic music gets pretty boring

Guest Lube Saibot
  On 4/22/2010 at 10:56 PM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

if people just keep using the fucking amen and 808s electronic music gets pretty boring

 

+ infinity

 

of course, in before

 

"but there's thousands of other breaks!" (there's like... 60 good ones and none of them is a virgin)

 

"but... 909... and 606! 707! LinnDrum!" (unless you're Mitch Murder or Sneaks you're not doing stuff like that justice anyway; sorry if I'm forgetting anyone)

 

IMO drums sound sources are meaningless nowadays, I'd much prefer if people invested the time spent "making their own" (yeah right, bullshit) into producing whatever drum sounds they do choose to fist-pumping stomping crunchy perfection.

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