Guest carthief Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 I came upon this website a couple months back: http://vigilantcitizen.com/ I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, and as I saw was said by someone commenting about one of his articles, some of his analyses do seem to be a bit of a stretch. Anyway, he analyzes Jay-Z's "On To The Next One" in one of his articles (I basically stole/plagiarized my topic title using his word choices and style): http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3073 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1RChZk1EU I am no Jay-Z fan, at all. I do, however, like this song a great deal, and I think the video is something else. Really great and dark. But there's this whole theory that Jay-Z is tied in with the masons and Satanism. There are videos all over youtube detailing this. I'm inclined to believe. However, Jay-Z strikes me as the type of person who is so boastful that he may be part of this organization, or worship, but he can't be quiet and intelligent about it, instead he posts it all over his videos in blatant overtones, etc., etc.... I do think there's something evil about the mainstream music industry. The guy at vigilantcitizen.com brings that to light, and to be honest reading his articles, skeptical as I may be about some of them, brought it to my attention for the first time. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 (edited) Join the darkside my friend , we will be the champions. Jesus saves nobody. Aphex Twin is Satan Edited May 1, 2010 by Boxing Day Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Boxing Day's signature Hide all signatures I HOPE THIS MATCH NEVER ENDS - Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 is Jay-Z that flat sounding twat who almost ruins that sexy Beyonce video I had an addiction too a few years back? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carthief Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 On 5/1/2010 at 7:24 PM, Boxing Day said: Join the darkside my friend , we will be the champions. This is the great folly of evil. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxing Day Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Let them do their satanic/masonic stuff , who cares ?? You let Christians do their Occult pagan rituals every Sunday , right??? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Boxing Day's signature Hide all signatures I HOPE THIS MATCH NEVER ENDS - Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carthief Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 On 5/1/2010 at 7:27 PM, soundwave said: is Jay-Z that flat sounding twat who almost ruins that sexy Beyonce video I had an addiction too a few years back? I have despised Jay-Z for quite some time. I can't stand how people for some reason accept that he's like "the don" of rap or whatever, "the messiah," all hailing his new albums as they come out. Everything I've ever heard from him has been horrible. That being said, however, I've never listened to "Reasonable Doubt"...you know what, to be honest, I've never listened to any of his albums. So I'm being judgemental. I used to think the Rolling Stones sucked until I actually listened to some of their earlier albums. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5vn6OqnD_Q Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ricky Downtown Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 On 5/1/2010 at 7:35 PM, carthief said: On 5/1/2010 at 7:27 PM, soundwave said: is Jay-Z that flat sounding twat who almost ruins that sexy Beyonce video I had an addiction too a few years back? I have despised Jay-Z for quite some time. I can't stand how people for some reason accept that he's like "the don" of rap or whatever, "the messiah," all hailing his new albums as they come out. Everything I've ever heard from him has been horrible. you know what, to be honest, I've never listened to any of his albums. So I'm being judgemental. I used to think the Rolling Stones sucked until I actually listened to some of their earlier albums. :facepalm: Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 @ thread, link, OP, everything Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 AH COOL, Jay-Z is now appropriating masonic and illuminati imagery to help ad a mysteriousness to his meager self image. just like Lady Gaga, and every other status quo music group. very sick! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carthief Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 As baphomet lowers his hoary head onto your back you will realize your errors. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caretstik Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Absolutely no interest in Jay-Z whatsoever and never heard of any of this malarky, but it might nonetheless make an interesting google search in the quieter hours. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Backson Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 i've been cool with alot of Jay-Z stuff, but I think this song is so poor. He tried to go against the flow of mainstream hiphop with this album (or so I gather from his lyrics) but it still ended up being the shitty ravesynth/handclap/808kick sound that every other big rapper uses. This song doesn't do anything for me, escially that reverby click bit that is completely out of key with the rest of the song. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementia Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) The Illuminati killed Tupac. Edited May 2, 2010 by Lascaille Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dementia's signature Hide all signatures Soundcloud Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 jay-z is no where near my favorite rapper. but i'm down with him. this track is alright. and as usual, most if not all of watmm isn't down. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide QBLA's signature Hide all signatures BONDING TAPES JOYFUL UNION CASSETTE BLOG ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 i'm down with jay-z. not really into hip hop (i like instrumental hip hop though the pop rap stuff though, i like to listen to a bit Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1313791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 On 5/1/2010 at 7:35 PM, carthief said: I have despised Jay-Z for quite some time. I can't stand how people for some reason accept that he's like "the don" of rap or whatever, "the messiah," all hailing his new albums as they come out. Everything I've ever heard from him has been horrible. That being said, however, I've never listened to "Reasonable Doubt"...you know what, to be honest, I've never listened to any of his albums. So I'm being judgemental. I used to think the Rolling Stones sucked until I actually listened to some of their earlier albums. maybe you should listen to some jay-z as well. maybe you'll like him instead of being a hater. On the occult / free mason thing - personally i don't buy it. He might do it just to be shocking to draw attention from people who believe this who would otherwise not pay attention.. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1314168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alzado Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) awesome song, awesome video. i like my jay z, but lately it wouldn't surprise me at all if his songs started including awkward attempts rhyme in phrases like "brought to you by Target" or "my woman's up at the Walmart where the prices can't be beat". Edited May 2, 2010 by LOL Alzado Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Alzado's signature Hide all signatures RIP Farm Eagle Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1314175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 I'm not a huge Jay-Z fan but he does have some dope tracks. This one isn't one of them. As for the masonic imagery in the video, his video director probably put them there.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1314632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 ....eh there is definitely lots & lots of factual evidence of Jay-z & Lady Gaga & many other mainstream pop mega hits intentionally using shit loads masonry, Illuminati references. The only question is why? could be a lot of reasons but you have to be pretty ignorant to the situation to not see that they are doing it very consciously. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1314752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 On 5/1/2010 at 10:14 PM, Awepittance said: AH COOL, Jay-Z is now appropriating masonic and illuminati imagery to help ad a mysteriousness to his meager self image. just like Lady Gaga, and every other status quo music group. very sick! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1314753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blanket Fort Collapse Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 it has been exploited in mainstream shit since the 90s at least, its not like a brand new thing at all Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1314758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 haha Nas vs Jay, mfers were trippin there. Nas kicks the shit outta Jay from fifty paces. He did go whack for a while but he's back on top of things and caning ass again. See him live if you can, then even his whack shit comes across as brilliant. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1314772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 (edited) did nas make the blueprint? yeah i didn't think so. Edited May 3, 2010 by GORDO Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide GORDO's signature Hide all signatures ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!! Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1314869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greg Reason Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 On 5/3/2010 at 5:47 PM, GORDO said: did nas make the blueprint? yeah i didn't think so. Your point being? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1314927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
colunga Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Actually, didn't KRS-One release the Blueprint of Hip Hop in 1989? Anyway, this whole satanism conntection is ridiculous (and since when has Mason=Satanist?????) I think an analysis could be done like this with any "dark" video. Actually, ask any scared judgmental christian to watch anything dark and see how many "symbols" pop out of absolutely nowhere. Also, with this type of logic: Quote The video premiered on 01/01/10, which in Kabbalistic numerology equals 3 (0 + 1 + 0 + 1 + 1+ 0 = 3). The number 3 is an important theme of the video. The release date also contains three 1’s, which is reminiscent of the three bars representing Jay-Z’s album The Blueprint 3. I think we could make a connection between the amount of letters in "WATMM" and how many years it's been around and how many deaths happened last year to spell out "Marilyn Manson kills kids onstage in 1996". If ANY of this was done intentionally, think of it as a PR move to keep Jay-Z "scary" or "intimidating" to morons since he can no longer claim street cred. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/55882-jay-z-satanism-and-on-to-the-next-one/#findComment-1315005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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