Redruth Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) honestly this makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. i am worried where it is going to lead. i don't believe humans are capable of wielding such power. this for me is comparable to the creation of the atom bomb or countless other major downward turning points in human history BBC Edited May 20, 2010 by troon Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesomeperson Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 The benefits seem to be on par with the dangers. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1329947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Braintree Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1329980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 troon: Quote Scientists In The US Have Created The First Synthetic Living Cel article: Quote The researchers constructed a bacterium's "genetic software" and transplanted it into a host cell. bit of a disparity there. this is basically like advanced IVF. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1329982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Coalbucket PI Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 (edited) Craig Venter is serious business. I don't really see the significance of this as they don't have the capability to design new genes so they will just be copying the code of existing genes from one species and putting into another species, which is exactly the same as transfecting genes the way they have been doing for years. Still impressive that they managed it I suppose. Edited May 21, 2010 by Coalbucket PI Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ruiagnelo Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 (edited) Saw this on the news today. Feels uncomfortable too. I fear to think it may happen as with nuclear energy. First a great discovery and then it kills hundred thousand people in a few seconds. Every discovery has it's good and bad sides and men will never learn how to deal with them just as he won't stop discovering new stuff. This theme can have multiple interpretations. EDIT: i remember reading about a contract with some oil company too. Money starts making its moves early in this field. Another fact that reinforces my doubts. Edited May 21, 2010 by ruiagnelo Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 (edited) i've noticed that in the last couple of years, the media have tended to OMG AMAZING BREAKTHRU!!1! every small advance in fields like cosmology or genetic engineering or quantum physics more and moreso. edit: why is that, i wonder? some kurzweil thing in effect? Edited May 21, 2010 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 On 5/21/2010 at 12:43 AM, ruiagnelo said: Saw this on the news today. Feels uncomfortable too. I fear to think it may happen as with nuclear energy. First a great discovery and then it kills hundred thousand people in a few seconds. Every discovery has it's good and bad sides and men will never learn how to deal with them just as he won't stop discovering new stuff. This theme can have multiple interpretations. EDIT: i remember reading about a contract with some oil company too. Money starts making its moves early in this field. Another fact that reinforces my doubts. Science has always been pushed forward by making money, you could argue against the invention of the wheel with the same train of thought. These things make news because they sound like big news if you don't understand the fine details or ignore the caveats Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted May 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 (edited) On 5/21/2010 at 12:52 AM, Coalbucket PI said: Science has always been pushed forward by making money Edited May 21, 2010 by troon Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Quote The researchers constructed a bacterium's "genetic software" and transplanted it into a host cell. One small step for man, one giant.......no wait, no..... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 carbon nanotubes Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 another forgettable scientific "breakthrough" as heralded by The Media Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 (edited) no, your scale is correct. one really small step for man one small step for bacteria (one giant leap for viruses) ((edited for clarity)) Edited May 21, 2010 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 On 5/21/2010 at 3:27 AM, kaini said: no, your scale is correct. one really small step for man one small step for bacteria (one giant leap for viruses) ((edited for clarity)) Resident Evil here we come. Who wants the T-Virus next? I do, I do! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 oh please, the creation of the atom bomb probably saved more lives than killed (no world war since!)... nanotechnology and this will go hand in hand in making all you fuckers live a shit ton healthier and longer Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 (edited) On 5/21/2010 at 3:29 AM, chassis said: On 5/21/2010 at 3:27 AM, kaini said: no, your scale is correct. one really small step for man one small step for bacteria (one giant leap for viruses) ((edited for clarity)) Resident Evil here we come. Who wants the T-Virus next? I do, I do! although there are the amusingly named mamavirus and mimivirus you can see a crowd of these fuckers with the naked eye. there's something exceptionally creepy and unheimlich about viruses. Edited May 21, 2010 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 now I know a new German word.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 (edited) On 5/21/2010 at 3:36 AM, kaini said: On 5/21/2010 at 3:29 AM, chassis said: On 5/21/2010 at 3:27 AM, kaini said: no, your scale is correct. one really small step for man one small step for bacteria (one giant leap for viruses) ((edited for clarity)) Resident Evil here we come. Who wants the T-Virus next? I do, I do! although there are the amusingly named mamavirus and mimivirus you can see a crowd of these fuckers with the naked eye. there's something exceptionally creepy and unheimlich about viruses. I just kind of gawked while reading it. I have no background in biology but it seemed kind of impressive. Edit: For my OCD's sake. Edited May 21, 2010 by chassis Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 background, sorry man, it was that or a Hehehee! from me.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 (edited) unheimlich - german; not 'right' or 'correct' in a very basic sense. freud recommended the translation of 'uncanny', jung translated it as 'numinous'. lovecraft translated it as 'eldritch' you know dat shit. some words are hard to translate correctly. for example, the dutch word gezellig pretty much directly translates to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWuKimtUEas the atmosphere conveyed by wings' wonderful christmastime and i fucking bet you some dutch watmmer will back me up on that. words are interesting things. Edited May 21, 2010 by kaini Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Ohrwurm the German word for a song that gets stuck in your head... I know that.... Gestalt... and a few others... tchuss! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 On 5/21/2010 at 3:59 AM, kaini said: unheimlich - german; not 'right' or 'correct' in a very basic sense. freud recommended the translation of 'uncanny', jung translated it as 'numinous'. lovecraft translated it as 'eldritch' you know dat shit. some words are hard to translate correctly. for example, the dutch word gezellig pretty much directly translates to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWuKimtUEas the atmosphere conveyed by wings' wonderful christmastime and i fucking bet you some dutch watmmer will back me up on that. words are interesting things. http://www.ricedoutyugo.com/ the hardest site to translate in the english language Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 On 5/21/2010 at 3:32 AM, karmakramer said: oh please, the creation of the atom bomb probably saved more lives than killed (no world war since!)... nanotechnology and this will go hand in hand in making all you fuckers live a shit ton healthier and longer You may feel differently after taking a trip to Hiroshima and visiting the museum there.(posted from an iPad) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56461-artificial-life/#findComment-1330423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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