2-CI dilemma

I've really fucked it up.

About 2 weeks ago, i decided to take the final 40 milligrams or so of 2CI that i had. I phoned my friend who's not a drug guy at all just to see if he'd be interested in taking a mild psychedelic. We took 14 mg each(and i managed to make another 13 mg pill for later use) then we went to macdonald's. Once we got in touch with our souls, the food appeared to taste awfully bad, but it was still a quite fun night.

A few days later my friend told he wanted me to order 2CI. I tried as hard as i could to refuse but he went at my place and rubbed my back in the most perfect way (he's learning how to make shiatsu massages from his father). When he stopped i was spaced out, i was a marshmallow, so i fulfiled my part of the deal and gave him my account to this online smartshop i had originally ordered the drug from. I deeply regret this act now.

At the time of writing, he's already ordered 500 mg and it's only a matter of weeks before he receives the packet. Today he told me he intends to eyeball his doses. He's fucking foolhardy, all the more so he really has the typical schizophrenic background.

I don't really know what to do. First i think i'll give him my balance but i'm not sure it will stop his craziness. The only solution i'm left with is to disgust him from 2-CI so i've been thinking i could trigger a little, controlled bad trip in his mind. I perfectly know how i could get myself into a small bad trip : 12 mg, a couple drags on a joint, an overcrowded, noisy place (carnivals are perfect for this). But i'm really afraid to push him into something that would overwhelm him. I think i'd need anxiolytics too, just in case.

Jesus, what have i done.

Any advice/reprimand ?

swap his 2cl for datura?

i am interested in how you dose in the mg range. do you have a super expensive scale? eyeballing stuff in the mg range is never a good idea.

and yes, this might not end well for your friend, if he's going to eyeball it and take too much, even if he has a scale, what's stopping him from taking a larger dose... shame on you!

It's neither your fault or your duty to 'solve'.

Can't believe you're contemplating a 'controlled bad trip'.

Is this other person actually you on 2ci?

  On 6/16/2010 at 1:28 PM, azatoth said:

i am interested in how you dose in the mg range. do you have a super expensive scale? eyeballing stuff in the mg range is never a good idea.

and yes, this might not end well for your friend, if he's going to eyeball it and take too much, even if he has a scale, what's stopping him from taking a larger dose... shame on you!

I bought this scale, it weights up to 20 g with a resolution of 2mg. Theoretically. Its threshold is actually at 6mg. So if you add 5 mg of sugar for 1 mg of drug you can artificially lower it to 1mg with a resolution of 0,3 mg. This is still a shitty scale, so i recommend you to weight your capsule, weight your drug, fill the capsule then weight the capsule again just to be sure : i actually had to redose my pills several times, because they weighted 30mg(x6) although I intended them to weight 20 mg.

  On 6/16/2010 at 1:32 PM, fenton said:

It's neither your fault or your duty to 'solve'.

 

 

Can't believe you're contemplating a 'controlled bad trip'.

Yes it is my fault. All the more so I already know he's half schizo. Nowadays he's much better but he used to think there was microphones and cameras hidden in his house, either in light bubls or behind mirrors. And there was this one time when he was like "i put my mask on and i take it off I'm now quasimodo i'm a nuclear waste" and on and on.

The controlled bad trip sounds maybe harsh, but i'm certain he's going to run through a bad trip at one point. I'm probably not a very knowledgeable person when it come to psychedelics in all their variety, but i think you're more likely to develop a panic attack whilst on 2-cI than with, say, LSA, because it's more sentimental and less cerebral eventhough it's like 10 times less potent than LSA.

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Is this other person actually you on 2ci?

what ? are you implying my friend and I are like edward norton and tyler durden in FightCLub ? hmmmm *strokes beard*

you shouldn't try to engineer a bad trip. that sounds like you trying to compensate for losing control of the situation in the first place. I think you need to have a serious discussion with your friend and explain your concern for his well-being. I imagine it will backfire if you try to pull some Machiavellian shit. If push comes to shove, maybe talk with some other real life people who could do something and explain that you fucked up. You will feel bad, but not as bad as if you're responsible for this dude going off the deep end.

  On 6/16/2010 at 2:07 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

it's not really your fault man. some people can't be stopped, they'll just find another way of doing it.

It's maybe egoistic of me, but if he has a mental breakdown and goes for 6 months in an asylum to recover, he'll be destroyed and won't be able to respect the "silence rule". As a consequence he will tell how he got the drug and his parent are probably going to sue me. I risk 10 years of imprisonment and can be fined up to 7500000 €.

surely if he ordered it from your account you can simply just cancel the order? when he complains his drugs never turned up, tell him that the company went out of business or got busted or something.

good idea but i actually gave him the account (email and password changed). Even if i'd steal his password, i think it's already too late. It's a super professional smartshop, they send the packet in less than 24 hours.

Well, we've already discussed it, i might keep his stash. I could also negotiate that i trip sit him.

  On 6/16/2010 at 2:03 PM, Babar said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 1:28 PM, azatoth said:

i am interested in how you dose in the mg range. do you have a super expensive scale? eyeballing stuff in the mg range is never a good idea.

and yes, this might not end well for your friend, if he's going to eyeball it and take too much, even if he has a scale, what's stopping him from taking a larger dose... shame on you!

 

I bought this scale, it weights up to 20 g with a resolution of 2mg. Theoretically. Its threshold is actually at 6mg. So if you add 5 mg of sugar for 1 mg of drug you can artificially lower it to 1mg with a resolution of 0,3 mg. This is still a shitty scale, so i recommend you to weight your capsule, weight your drug,

a smart savvy drug user on watmm! 2mg resolution is good enough for weighing out most stuff (Except if you happen upon some pure LSD or salvinorin A)

kill your friend before it's too late

  On 6/16/2010 at 1:19 PM, Babar said:

I've really fucked it up.

 

 

About 2 weeks ago, i decided to take the final 40 milligrams or so of 2CI that i had. I phoned my friend who's not a drug guy at all just to see if he'd be interested in taking a mild psychedelic. We took 14 mg each(and i managed to make another 13 mg pill for later use) then we went to macdonald's. Once we got in touch with our souls, the food appeared to taste awfully bad, but it was still a quite fun night.

A few days later my friend told he wanted me to order 2CI. I tried as hard as i could to refuse but he went at my place and rubbed my back in the most perfect way (he's learning how to make shiatsu massages from his father). When he stopped i was spaced out, i was a marshmallow, so i fulfiled my part of the deal and gave him my account to this online smartshop i had originally ordered the drug from. I deeply regret this act now.

 

At the time of writing, he's already ordered 500 mg and it's only a matter of weeks before he receives the packet. Today he told me he intends to eyeball his doses. He's fucking foolhardy, all the more so he really has the typical schizophrenic background.

 

I don't really know what to do. First i think i'll give him my balance but i'm not sure it will stop his craziness. The only solution i'm left with is to disgust him from 2-CI so i've been thinking i could trigger a little, controlled bad trip in his mind. I perfectly know how i could get myself into a small bad trip : 12 mg, a couple drags on a joint, an overcrowded, noisy place (carnivals are perfect for this). But i'm really afraid to push him into something that would overwhelm him. I think i'd need anxiolytics too, just in case.

 

 

Jesus, what have i done.

 

Any advice/reprimand ?

Your first mistake was offering drugs to someone who in your words "is not a drug guy at all". Some "friend."

Your second mistake was letting another guy rub your back - WTF - AND succumb to it? (I'm assuming you're still a man). If you're a gay, then no worries.

Your third mistake was letting this guy use YOUR account - say for instance this guy DIES from his trip, his parents investigate, they will surely find your previous mailing information, and as you said, you WILL go to jail, and probably far worse than if he lives, since you will be an accessory to murder.

Perhaps this is the wake up you need to realize that drugs are nothing but trouble?

*takes off pastor's neckband*

i've thought babar was a girl.

Accessory to murder? Who is the murderer, drugs? Are they going to put the drugs on trial? Who will defend the drugs? Do drugs have the same rights as people, do they get an attorney?

ANSWER ME THESE QUESTIONS JOYREX ANSWERRRRRRR

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:24 PM, chassis said:

Accessory to murder? Who is the murderer, drugs? Are they going to put the drugs on trial? Who will defend the drugs? Do drugs have the same rights as people, do they get an attorney?

 

ANSWER ME THESE QUESTIONS JOYREX ANSWERRRRRRR

Babar is indirectly responsible by providing the vehicle/means by which is friend could damage/kill himself by giving him the pharm account.

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:26 PM, Joyrex said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:24 PM, chassis said:

Accessory to murder? Who is the murderer, drugs? Are they going to put the drugs on trial? Who will defend the drugs? Do drugs have the same rights as people, do they get an attorney?

 

ANSWER ME THESE QUESTIONS JOYREX ANSWERRRRRRR

 

Babar is indirectly responsible by providing the vehicle/means by which is friend could damage/kill himself by giving him the pharm account.

So if I lend my friend my car and he crashes and dies am I accessory to murder?

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:28 PM, chassis said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:26 PM, Joyrex said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:24 PM, chassis said:

Accessory to murder? Who is the murderer, drugs? Are they going to put the drugs on trial? Who will defend the drugs? Do drugs have the same rights as people, do they get an attorney?

 

ANSWER ME THESE QUESTIONS JOYREX ANSWERRRRRRR

 

Babar is indirectly responsible by providing the vehicle/means by which is friend could damage/kill himself by giving him the pharm account.

 

So if I lend my friend my car and he crashes and dies am I accessory to murder?

quit trolling, dumbass

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:28 PM, chassis said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:26 PM, Joyrex said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:24 PM, chassis said:

Accessory to murder? Who is the murderer, drugs? Are they going to put the drugs on trial? Who will defend the drugs? Do drugs have the same rights as people, do they get an attorney?

 

ANSWER ME THESE QUESTIONS JOYREX ANSWERRRRRRR

 

Babar is indirectly responsible by providing the vehicle/means by which is friend could damage/kill himself by giving him the pharm account.

 

So if I lend my friend my car and he crashes and dies am I accessory to murder?

was he driving it illegally with your permission?

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:38 PM, theSun said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:28 PM, chassis said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:26 PM, Joyrex said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:24 PM, chassis said:

Accessory to murder? Who is the murderer, drugs? Are they going to put the drugs on trial? Who will defend the drugs? Do drugs have the same rights as people, do they get an attorney?

 

ANSWER ME THESE QUESTIONS JOYREX ANSWERRRRRRR

 

Babar is indirectly responsible by providing the vehicle/means by which is friend could damage/kill himself by giving him the pharm account.

 

So if I lend my friend my car and he crashes and dies am I accessory to murder?

 

was he driving it illegally with your permission?

LOL

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:38 PM, theSun said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:28 PM, chassis said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:26 PM, Joyrex said:

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:24 PM, chassis said:

Accessory to murder? Who is the murderer, drugs? Are they going to put the drugs on trial? Who will defend the drugs? Do drugs have the same rights as people, do they get an attorney?

 

ANSWER ME THESE QUESTIONS JOYREX ANSWERRRRRRR

 

Babar is indirectly responsible by providing the vehicle/means by which is friend could damage/kill himself by giving him the pharm account.

 

So if I lend my friend my car and he crashes and dies am I accessory to murder?

 

was he driving it illegally with your permission?

had he ever driven a car before?

srsly, if you lent the car to your buddy and your buddy doesn't have a license (or worse yet, is a minor w/o license), you would most likely be jailed in america. if the parents are rich/important they would sue the shit out of you and your life would be over.

driving a car without being licensed to do so is probably more dangerous than doing DMT, so i would assume the law would see it as endangering someone's life with your property with your permission.

not sure what shit's like in europe tho.

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:45 PM, theSun said:

srsly, if you lent the car to your buddy and your buddy doesn't have a license (or worse yet, is a minor w/o license), you would most likely be jailed in america. if the parents are rich/important they would sue the shit out of you and your life would be over.

 

driving a car without being licensed to do so is probably more dangerous than doing DMT, so i would assume the law would see it as endangering someone's life with your property with your permission.

 

not sure what shit's like in europe tho.

He has a licence.

Driving without insurance.

i dont know how that would work in europe at all.

i also don't see the relevance in the distinction.

  On 6/16/2010 at 8:53 PM, theSun said:

i dont know how that would work in europe at all.

 

i also don't see the relevance in the distinction.

It's illegal to drive without insurance here, but every driver is responsible for their own insurance.

how would that work though if i crashed your car and the car is uninsured? would i be fined? you? the car?