milan

so i've been in italy for a business/pleasure combo for a bit, and i've become fairly bored with milan, yet i'm stuck here a few more days. now that the cup is done, things are even more bleak. i've done the davinci science and tech museum, cruised the duomo and the galleria vittorio emanuelle. any insider tips? cool shops, live music venues? not so fussed with hip italo-clubs or anything like that. more the everyman type stuff. if there is such a thing.

subway's fairly good here, although even hotter than the tube in london, which i didn't think was possible.

i'm located near the piazza della reppublica.

italian help.

Dont know if this is of any help, but hey ho. Venice is about an hours drive away, its fucking stunning, its just a city of icons. So sorry no Milan help, but it would be a shame not to drive to Venice.

im from Cinisello Balsamo (north milan) and i don't have a clue, sorry

the city sucks these days, especially this summer, no decent events, anything. i understand your post

there is a place where a lot of people go near the Linate airport, not posh, neither human friendly, as tradition commands. autechre played there. this friday there should be some reggae My link

here you can find the best beer i Milan, try the 'Lambrate' before you go home

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yeah, actually hit venice last week for a few days. that was pretty awesome. i knew how it all worked in theory, but seeing it in person was remarkable.

i want to go see that giant pink stuffed bunny off in the west, but dunno if i'll be able to.

insider lol @ 'what does one do here?'

There are a couple more churches that are worth a visit:

Sant'Ambrogio - take the green tube at Centrale FS directed to Abbiategrasso and get off at S.Ambrogio OR go to Duomo with the yellow tube, then take tram 16 in via Orefici get off at corso Magenta/largo D'Ancona then go along via Terraggio until you reach a fork where Piazza Sant'Ambrogio is on the right, the entrance is close to via San Vittore.

San Carlo - between Duomo and San Babila, in corso Vittorio Emanuele.

Santa Maria delle Grazie + Da Vinci's Last Supper - take tram 16 in via Orefici and get off at S.Maria delle Grazie, which is after via Giosué Carducci (and the aforementioned stop for S.Ambrogio).

There are many tourists there waiting in line for the last supper almost always, I suggest going there as soon as it opens in the morning (8.15, info in Italian).

San Marco - take the yellow tube from Centrale FS directed to San Donato and get off at Turati, go towards via Montebello then go along via Marco De Marchi until you reach via Fatebenefratelli, now turn right and go on until you see a church on your right.

Latteria San Marco - this is a traditional restaurant where I recommend getting "l'uovo all'occhio di bue cotto in tegamino d'argento" (a simple egg cooked in a silver-plated pan) along with other things you might like.

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Museo di Storia Naturale + Ulrico Hoepli planetarium + giardini Indro Montanelli - The museum has a gorgeous geology exhibition. I've never managed to go to the planetarium, so I can't give you any advice, but you might like it (info in Italian). The park is a nice place to hang around in the morning, before it gets too hot.

To get here you should take the yellow tube to Duomo, then switch to the red tube directed to Sesto FS and get off at Palestro.

Castello Sforzesco + Parco Sempione - You can reach the castle by feet from Duomo. The path is piazza Mercanti, piazza Cordusio, via Dante, largo Cairoli, via Beltrami, piazza Castello.

I don't know what they're up to there at the castle nowadays, from time to time there are some exhibitions. However, two years ago RAI's phonology studio got moved there (info in Italian), so you might be able to see some old synths from the 50s/60s used mostly for radio/tv purposes back in the day.

The park is just behind the castle, you can enter it by passing through it. Here you can find the old TV tower and a library, which is closed now, but you might be able to see it from outside and enjoy its curious structure.

This should be enough for 2/4 days, but there's more for sure.

haha

there are 50 degress percieved

and he's not going to see those synth in this life unless he's RDJ

Tortona is fun... pretty much the trendy east end equivalent of london. there are lots of small galleries with cool shit in. the bars are also quite good.

im assuming you went to the Triennale (ie. design museum)? it is absolutely fucking amazing, and very idm too.

thanks for the tips! actually someone told me you lived here, super lurker ultra. i'll check out a few of your suggestions. milan definitely seems less tourist-oriented to be sure... but it's kinda cool. i sort of dig how people here don't have the patience for people who don't even bother trying to speak italian (mine is quite poor, but i make a concerted effort.)

castello sforzeco is definitely on the list. and i'm definitely keeping an eye out for the lambrate, mohamed... finding a decent pint is a challenge 'round here too.

turns out i'm off to berlin for 2 days, but i'll be back here for the weekend, etc, so i'll definitely be checking some of these things out!

triennale i haven't checked out, IDM, but it sounds like exactly what i'm looking for!

multi thanks for the tips!

you're welcome!

  On 7/13/2010 at 1:03 PM, maus said:

thanks for the tips! actually someone told me you lived here, super lurker ultra. i'll check out a few of your suggestions. milan definitely seems less tourist-oriented to be sure... but it's kinda cool. i sort of dig how people here don't have the patience for people who don't even bother trying to speak italian (mine is quite poor, but i make a concerted effort.)

yeah, milan's never been flooded by tourists as much as rome or venice usually are. However, it might get a bit more tourist-friendly by 2015 because of the expo.

I've always found visitors who don't know the local language quite annoying, especially those who don't speak english either.

and speaking of language barrier,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCbkLVT8xXU

hey maus, check this out, it should help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAFQFvSPhQ8&feature=related

or these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnN9SQi8Mqk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UydI-2650kw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI4sFZ_Y0Fs&feature=related

I've been asked to play a gig in Milan sometime soon so this thread is just what I was after too!

Is it mega expensive there? I bet it is...

  On 7/13/2010 at 5:53 PM, placidburp said:

I've been asked to play a gig in Milan sometime soon so this thread is just what I was after too!

Is it mega expensive there? I bet it is...

not really.. i'm eating good and paying my rent with my wage, having a pint once a week and my smokes when it's a good month, but that's all

i'm not that sure it would be a nicer place with more money at disposal

  On 7/13/2010 at 5:53 PM, placidburp said:

I've been asked to play a gig in Milan sometime soon so this thread is just what I was after too!

Is it mega expensive there? I bet it is...

ooh! I'm looking forward to your gig!

As long as you avoid fancy places for tourists, you shouldn't spend too much for a stay here.

I don't know if it's more expensive than there, the big mac index might give you an idea though.

I never understood locals wanting people to "just try" to speak the local language. It takes years to learn a language. How can you "just try"? Then people turn around and judge you for not traveling the world and exploring. Well, how can you blame them with that attitude